Author Topic: DEBATE Catholic brother Dimond vs protestant Keith Thompson (Read 10046 times)

Deliveringit · « **on:** January 17, 2014, 03:41:16 PM »

In this Debate the Catholic apologist, brother Peter Dimond, totally destroys the arguments of the calvinist apologist, Keith Thompson. Listen to the debate as Keith only cites a few verses which he twists out of context and instead keith mainly cites so called "scholars" to make his case. Then listen to the Catholic monk, brother Peter Dimond, as bro. Peter goes to Scripture itself and cites many many passages which totally refutes the calvinist position. Here is the Debate from Youtube................

youtube.com/watch?v=Qn1vC1Ez-OI

Matto · « **Reply #1 on:** January 17, 2014, 03:51:59 PM »

This debate was already posted about on another thread here.

bowler · « **Reply #2 on:** January 17, 2014, 04:06:21 PM »

Fulton Sheen said that:
to convince a Pagan you use Philosophy
to convince a Protestant you use Scripture
to convert a Catholic you use Dogma

It'll be interesting watching him debate strictly using scripture and likely the Fathers, two sources the serous Protestants listen to.

crossbro · « **Reply #3 on:** January 17, 2014, 04:32:56 PM »

It is funny how flaky the term "apologist" is tossed about.

Deliveringit · « **Reply #4 on:** January 18, 2014, 02:13:32 PM »

I posted this same thread to 'Catholic Answers Forum' and they took it down and banned me for life. They gave no reason why. This seems very strange since brother Dimond did not promote sedevacantism in that debate, but instead refuted calvinism.

'Catholic Answers Live' probably would not remove a thread if it was some protestant such as Joel Osteen or Billy Graham refuting calvinism. So if 'Catholic Answers Live' considers the Dimond's to be protestants, then why the double standard?

Also, if any of you have a registered nickname at Fisheaters Forum, then can you post this thread there? I am unable to do that since I am not registered there and apparently they are not registering any new persons.

Ambrose · « **Reply #5 on:** January 18, 2014, 04:28:02 PM »

By chance, if the Dimonds convinced him, what are hoping to convert him? They themselves are heretics who are debating other heretics. There is no winner here.

Deliveringit · « **Reply #6 on:** January 19, 2014, 06:12:52 AM »

Quote from: Ambrose

By chance, if the Dimonds convinced him, what are hoping to convert him? They themselves are heretics who are debating other heretics. There is no winner here.

I disagree. There is not one dogmatic teaching of the Holy Catholic Church that the Dimond's disagree with. Therefore they are not heretics.

Ambrose · « **Reply #7 on:** January 19, 2014, 09:55:52 AM »

Quote from: Deliveringit

Quote from: Ambrose
By chance, if the Dimonds convinced him, what are hoping to convert him? They themselves are heretics who are debating other heretics. There is no winner here.

I disagree. There is not one dogmatic teaching of the Holy Catholic Church that the Dimond's disagree with. Therefore they are not heretics.

Baptism of Desire

bowler · « **Reply #8 on:** January 19, 2014, 01:44:51 PM »

Quote from: Ambrose

Quote from: Deliveringit
Quote from: Ambrose
By chance, if the Dimonds convinced him, what are hoping to convert him? They themselves are heretics who are debating other heretics. There is no winner here.

I disagree. There is not one dogmatic teaching of the Holy Catholic Church that the Dimond's disagree with. Therefore they are not heretics.

Baptism of Desire

Amdro the broken record speaks again.

(Not even you believe what you say Amdro)

Ambrose · « **Reply #9 on:** January 19, 2014, 02:36:15 PM »

Bowler,

You are the broken record, constantly singing to the tune of the Dimonds.

For me, I will learn my Faith from the Councils, Popes, Doctors, theologians, and catechisms.

bowler · « **Reply #10 on:** January 19, 2014, 03:00:13 PM »

Quote from: Ambrose

Bowler,

You are the broken record, constantly singing to the tune of the Dimonds.

For me, I will learn my Faith from the Councils, Popes, Doctors, theologians, and catechisms.

Not even you believe what you say Amdro

See "Quotes that BODers Say Must Not be Understood as Written"

Ambrose · « **Reply #11 on:** January 19, 2014, 03:03:24 PM »

Bowler,

I sure do believe what I say. Unlike you, I will no allow myself to be deceived away from Catholic dogma.

bowler · « **Reply #12 on:** January 19, 2014, 03:10:35 PM »

Quote from: Ambrose

Bowler,

I sure do believe what I say. Unlike you, I will no allow myself to be deceived away from Catholic dogma.

For you Catholic dogmas on EENS and baptism must not be understood as they are written. You are in denial.

See "Quotes that BODers Say Must Not be Understood as Written"

Ambrose · « **Reply #13 on:** January 19, 2014, 03:12:20 PM »

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Quote from: Ambrose
Bowler,

I sure do believe what I say. Unlike you, I will no allow myself to be deceived away from Catholic dogma.

For you Catholic dogmas on EENS and baptism must not be understood as they are written. You are in denial.

See "Quotes that BODers Say Must Not be Understood as Written"

I understand them as they are written and interpreted by the Magisterium.

bowler · « **Reply #14 on:** January 19, 2014, 03:17:43 PM »

Quote from: Ambrose

Quote from: bowler
Quote from: Ambrose
Bowler,

I sure do believe what I say. Unlike you, I will no allow myself to be deceived away from Catholic dogma.

For you Catholic dogmas on EENS and baptism must not be understood as they are written. You are in denial.

See "Quotes that BODers Say Must Not be Understood as Written"

I understand them as they are written and interpreted by the Magisterium.

That's easy to say for you since you are just talking. Let's see you explain away all of them. You can't even get past the "membership" dogmas.