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Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

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Re: Dating outside the resistance
« Reply #45 on: Yesterday at 08:53:21 AM »
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    • Quote from: SimonJude on Yesterday at 08:47:07 AM
    "For the Apostle says that a woman does better if she does not marry." - St. Thomas Aquinas on 1 Timothy 2

    Gregory of nαzιanzus interpreted the "childbearing" in 1 Timothy 2:15 in a spiritualized or allegoric sense, referring to the bearing of spiritual fruit, rather than physical motherhood being the literal means of a woman's personal salvation.

    This approach was common among many early Church Fathers (including Gregory of Nyssa and Origen) who shared Gregory's ascetic sensibilities and were anxious about the literal interpretation of the passage, which seemed to conflict with the high value they placed on virginity and celibacy as a superior spiritual path.

    In other words, it's not the childbearing that will save her soul.

    I gave qualifications earlier on. You are either a clumsy reader or just trying to stir trouble.

    It cannot be an absolute obviously,  but the natural leads into the supernatural, and for most women the actual act of bearing physical children is that immediate means of saving her soul. With the already outlined qualifiers.
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    Re: Dating outside the resistance
    « Reply #46 on: Yesterday at 09:09:00 AM »
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    • Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on Yesterday at 08:53:21 AM

     and for most women the actual act of bearing physical children is that immediate means of saving her soul. With the already outlined qualifiers.
    Not according to the father of the Church...
    Read and learn.
    I'm done here.
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    Offline TomGubbinsKimmage

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    Re: Dating outside the resistance
    « Reply #47 on: Yesterday at 09:18:28 AM »
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    • Quote from: SimonJude on Yesterday at 09:09:00 AM
    Not according to the father of the Church...
    Read and learn.
    I'm done here.

    You were the one who inserted the word "rather" in reference to most women.

    That was not the Church Fathers that did this.

    I am glad you are running. As you were not very honest.
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    Re: Dating outside the resistance
    « Reply #48 on: Yesterday at 01:44:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on Yesterday at 09:18:28 AM
    You were the one who inserted the word "rather" in reference to most women.

    That was not the Church Fathers that did this.

    I am glad you are running. As you were not very honest.
    :laugh1::laugh2::fryingpan::jester::facepalm:
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    Re: Dating outside the resistance
    « Reply #49 on: Yesterday at 02:27:53 PM »
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    • I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again! 
    Listen to these men!

    https://youtu.be/MH_PANCU9oQ?si=Dh7a7E3ORiZfUfMx
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    Re: Dating outside the resistance
    « Reply #50 on: Yesterday at 02:58:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on Yesterday at 02:27:53 PM
    I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again!
    Listen to these men!

    https://youtu.be/MH_PANCU9oQ?si=Dh7a7E3ORiZfUfMx
    I LOVE this! Dancing amazing too.
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    Re: Dating outside the resistance
    « Reply #51 on: Yesterday at 03:09:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Justinian on Yesterday at 02:58:26 PM
    I LOVE this! Dancing amazing too.
    Glad you like it!  May I ask your age?  Is the song new to you?  
    These fellas really knew how to cut a rug!
    You might like this, too.
    Rappers and hip hoppers have nothing on the older generation!
    https://youtu.be/_8yGGtVKrD8?si=hqjAL0qiB5XTh5zd
    They had class when they were still colored. 🎼💃🏿🕺🏿🎶 🎵 
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    Re: Dating outside the resistance
    « Reply #52 on: Yesterday at 04:06:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on Yesterday at 02:27:53 PM
    I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again!
    Listen to these men!

    https://youtu.be/MH_PANCU9oQ?si=Dh7a7E3ORiZfUfMx
    SUPER!
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    Re: Dating outside the resistance
    « Reply #53 on: Yesterday at 04:07:42 PM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on Yesterday at 03:09:55 PM


    https://youtu.be/_8yGGtVKrD8?si=hqjAL0qiB5XTh5zd
    They had class when they were still colored. 🎼💃🏿🕺🏿🎶 🎵
    They sure did!  Excellent!
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    Offline Justinian

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    Re: Dating outside the resistance
    « Reply #54 on: Yesterday at 04:13:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Seraphina on Yesterday at 03:09:55 PM
    Glad you like it!  May I ask your age?  Is the song new to you? 
    These fellas really knew how to cut a rug!
    You might like this, too.
    Rappers and hip hoppers have nothing on the older generation!
    https://youtu.be/_8yGGtVKrD8?si=hqjAL0qiB5XTh5zd
    They had class when they were still colored. 🎼💃🏿🕺🏿🎶 🎵
    40, I’m an older millennial! I am familiar with that style of music and enjoy it but unfortunately can’t dance like those guys. What’s YOUR age? In UK no one says ‘coloured’ for black people, except my late grandmother and her generation (she died 15 years ago). I think Americans use that term. 
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    Re: Dating outside the resistance
    « Reply #55 on: Yesterday at 04:32:47 PM »
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    • Quote from: Justinian on Yesterday at 04:13:08 PM
    40, I’m an older millennial! I am familiar with that style of music and enjoy it but unfortunately can’t dance like those guys. What’s YOUR age? In UK no one says ‘coloured’ for black people, except my late grandmother and her generation (she died 15 years ago). I think Americans use that term.
    Middle-of-the-era Boomer, born out of time! No, I’m blessed to walk with a cane. Can’t dance at all and when I could, not that way! I’m white, Irish/Polish/Russian. No, we definitely do not say colored in the US unless you have a death wish. I meant it tongue-in-cheek, (ironic humor!) My parents’ generation said colored until the late 1970’s. After that, it was “African American,” then, Persons of Color, and now, just “Black” with capital B only if race must be mentioned. You can’t specify gender anymore, even if it’s obvious. Example, “The person ran all 26.2 miles and they reached the finish line in eight hours.”
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    Re: Dating outside the resistance
    « Reply #56 on: Yesterday at 05:51:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on Yesterday at 05:56:42 AM
    For women that works. Their window of opportunity is much, much narrower. In fact it is recommended for so many these days as they are just intolerable women, and it is sparing some unfortunate man.

    Men just have to wait it out longer.

    Give it time, society is already changing rapidly. The present generation of women were raised by very weak fathers and this is why so many of them are and will be single. (45% by 2030 and that excludes single mothers). Wont be the case for the next generation.

    Men have the choice to marry much younger or outside their country.

    Patience gentlemen, patience.
    The problem with men waiting is that most ladies aren't interested in old men. So by the time they can provide it's hard for them to find someone who is genuinely interested in them.

    And race mixing (if that's what you meant by outside the country) is not something that should be encouraged.
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    Re: Dating outside the resistance
    « Reply #57 on: Yesterday at 05:54:37 PM »
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    • Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on Yesterday at 07:26:10 AM
    Mental gymnastics. It says what it says. Let he who has ears, hear.
    You are wrong here. Having children does not save a woman unless she also keeps the faith. 
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    Re: Dating outside the resistance
    « Reply #58 on: Yesterday at 05:56:33 PM »
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    • Quote from: SimonJude on Yesterday at 08:47:07 AM
    "For the Apostle says that a woman does better if she does not marry." - St. Thomas Aquinas on 1 Timothy 2

    Gregory of nαzιanzus interpreted the "childbearing" in 1 Timothy 2:15 in a spiritualized or allegoric sense, referring to the bearing of spiritual fruit, rather than physical motherhood being the literal means of a woman's personal salvation.

    This approach was common among many early Church Fathers (including Gregory of Nyssa and Origen) who shared Gregory's ascetic sensibilities and were anxious about the literal interpretation of the passage, which seemed to conflict with the high value they placed on virginity and celibacy as a superior spiritual path.

    In other words, it's not the childbearing that will save her soul.
    The first sense of scripture is literally. But in Catholic doctrine we know that if someone dies outside the Church or in mortal sin they are damned. So even if a woman has children she still needs to be Catholic, be in the state of grace and raise her children properly, do her duties etc.
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    Re: Dating outside the resistance
    « Reply #59 on: Yesterday at 07:06:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: AnthonyPadua on Yesterday at 05:54:37 PM
    You are wrong here. Having children does not save a woman unless she also keeps the faith.
    You have to have BOTH.
    That should have been the OBVIOUS interpretation of my words.
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