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Dan Rather comments on True Believers
« on: December 08, 2010, 10:48:49 PM »
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  • TAKEN FROM: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-rather/true-believers_b_793834.html
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    "Journalists treat the Church like any other organization, interested in influence and self-preservation, but while it may sometimes be those things, that lens is flatly insufficient.

    "That's why my program on HDNet this week is dedicated to a story that will challenge viewers in a way no one else on television will. It's an examination of two Catholic communities on the margins of the Church.

    "The first community is a group of traditionalist conservatives called the Society of Saint Pius the Tenth (SSPX). They formed to resist the modernizations of the Second Vatican Council. Rome at one point feared they created a danger of schism unseen since Eastern Orthodoxy split off from the Church in the 11th Century -- and so for 20 years, their leaders were excommunicated. Then last year, Pope Benedict allowed the leaders back into the fold. To the Vatican's shock and dismay, this was front page news around the world after it came out that one of their leaders was a virulent h0Ɩ0cαųst-denier. No doubt, there is a despicable strain of anti-Semitism that runs through some ulta-traditionalist Catholics, but SSPX's leader has been unequivocal in repudiating it, and the uproar over one conspiracy-minded bishop overshadowed the less sensational, but far more important, story about what the Church's attempts at reconciliation with a group founded on opposition to Church modernization might mean for the Church's future...

    ..."Those who greet these arcane debates with a yawn would be well advised to remember that the Catholic Church is the biggest organization in the world. Debates on the language and imagery of worship might seem obscure, but conservatism and progressivism on the liturgy correspond quite closely with conservatism and progressivism on social issues. gαys and lesbians are welcomed at Spirit of Saint Stephen's, while SSPX says that their inclinations are "depraved." When it comes to artificial birth control, Spirit of Saint Stephen's members emphasized the "sacredness of individual informed conscience," while SSPX rejects condoms even for disease-prevention because fornication is an evil, and "it is never lawful, even for the gravest reasons, to do evil that good may come of it." And crucially, whether the Church should dictate secular law is a subject of debate in Catholicism. SSPX's Bishop Fellay made clear that the Church's influence should arise through good works and good arguments, not force -- but that "separation of Church and state" is anathema to Catholicism since the Church needs to have a say on religious/secular "mixed matters," where a nation's laws could influence its citizens' path to salvation.

    "Together with the United States' leading Vatican-watcher, John Allen, Dan Rather Reportsexamines what it means that the conservatives are on track to being back in the fold, while the liberals are out. Both SSPX and Spirit of Saint Stephen's graciously welcomed us into their inner sanctuaries, to their Masses, to spend time with their faithful. As far as we know, we are the only non-Catholic media to be given a full-length interview with SSPX leader Bishop Bernard Fellay (one of the excommunicated bishops) since the Williamson scandal. I hope we did both sides justice. Men and women of all faiths, and of no faith at all, would be well advised to follow along."
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    Offline Telesphorus

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    Dan Rather comments on True Believers
    « Reply #1 on: December 08, 2010, 11:13:04 PM »
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  • Funny how they still refer to the Bishops as excommunicated.



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    Dan Rather comments on True Believers
    « Reply #2 on: December 09, 2010, 06:43:31 AM »
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  • Methinks the globalists can no longer rely on some liberals to help create that nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr and are now looking to enlist some traditional folk ..... sans Bp. Williamson, of course.

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    Dan Rather comments on True Believers
    « Reply #3 on: December 09, 2010, 01:02:55 PM »
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  • already have in many groups!
    Proud "European American" and prouder, still, Catholic

    Offline Elizabeth

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    Dan Rather comments on True Believers
    « Reply #4 on: December 15, 2010, 11:24:28 AM »
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  • Is the interview available online?