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Offline IndultCat

Re: D. Sedes are sad, lonely people
« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2026, 01:39:00 PM »
Sedevacantism does not come from being sad, lonely or isolated. Rather, it comes from devout Catholics who possess both common sense and logic.

If a Catholic believes in all of the papal powers and then observes what has been going on in the Church for almost 70 years, then common sense and logic tells said Catholic that the papal seat must be vacant because the men claiming to be popes for almost 70 years have absolutely contradicted what was taught, believed and practiced since the beginning of the Church almost 2000 years ago. 

Sedevacantism is the current state of the Catholic Church and any denial of it (no matter how uncomfortable it may feel realizing this unfortunate truth) simply leads to a destructive "cognitive dissonance" (i.e. a contradictory state of mind) in the mind of a Catholic who does so. 

This is as simple as I can explain it.
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Offline DecemRationis

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Re: D. Sedes are sad, lonely people
« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2026, 01:44:37 PM »
Quote from: TomGubbinsKimmage on July 15, 2026, 10:32:30 AM

It does indeed seem to be the opinion by the majority of theologians that a Pope is automatically deposed if he is a heretic.  But for context, that only seemed to become so in the 20th century. And despite the utterly ignorant protestations of certain losers on the internet, it was heavily disputed by great and holy theological minds for hundreds of years.


Well, going back a bit further:

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Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach a gospel to you besides that which we have preached to you, let him be anathema.

That's a direct command from God.

What does "anathema" mean? I think it means more than simply ignore them, or reject the false teaching.


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Re: D. Sedes are sad, lonely people
« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2026, 01:47:08 PM »
Quote from: DecemRationis on July 15, 2026, 01:44:37 PM
Well, going back a bit further:

That's a direct command from God.

What does "anathema" mean? I think it means more than simply ignore them, or reject the false teaching.

Or recognize and resist.  

Where are the people who supports Tom's thought process?
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Offline SanskritCrayon

Re: D. Sedes are sad, lonely people
« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2026, 01:51:51 PM »
Quote from: Incredulous on July 15, 2026, 12:28:55 PM


Matthew described the poor man as retarded... but I suppose his "driver" is demonic.

Yet he's allowed to stay on the forum.

What an embarrasment to the SSPX Resistance that has struggled so long for credibility.
TomGubbinsKimmage sounds and acts like a South Park character, doesn't he? (Of course, not that any Catholic should even consider watching that piece of garbage...) Or he could be a character from a Mark Twain story. In any case, he feels like a satirical character written by an author. 
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Offline DecemRationis

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Re: D. Sedes are sad, lonely people
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2026, 01:54:31 PM »
Quote from: Gray2023 on July 15, 2026, 01:47:08 PM
Or recognize and resist. 

Where are the people who supports Tom's thought process?

Well, an argument can be made for recognize and resist under Biblical precedent: the Pharisees taught heresy (Matthew 15, Mark 7), and the disciples were told to "beware" their doctrine, yet they remained in "Moses' seat" as the authority. Matthew 23:2. That it, despite teachings that "transgress[ed] the word of God," they didn't forfeit the seat. And Christ doesn't contradict Himself, being Truth itself. 

But it seems a different rule was to be applied in the New Covenant. Hence, Galatians 1:8-9.

It would seem to me that R & R need to come up with a definition of "anathema," one that fits in with the above regarding the Pharisees of the OT. Or show how the rule didn't in fact change under the New Covenant - which is I guess the same thing, finding a definition of "anathema" that fits with the example give by Christ about the Pharisees. 
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