Author Topic: Montini was a Jew. (Read 12377 times)

SJB · « **Reply #75 on:** June 10, 2011, 11:46:04 AM »

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That's rather subjective, your "comfortable nest of conformity" is in fact the world in which you live and the spirit of which you appear to imbide, your accuracy regarding secular events notwithstanding.

Sure, and it's valid for everyone. Drawing conclusions from a reputation rating on an opinionated board is really not much of a conclusion. It only measures someones popularity. Few have the discipline or the inclinations to rate favorably a well reasoned and written post if it don't agree with their core values.

If the "core values" are known to be at odds with an even merely morally certain truth, why would anybody "rate" this with favor?

Well reasoned error?

Vandaler · « **Reply #76 on:** June 10, 2011, 11:54:33 AM »

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I appreciate a critical attitude regarding claims, but the irony is that you don't seem to hold out the same critical spirit regarding the neo-pagan world, its institutions and claims or the religion of scientism to which it adheres so faithfully.

Well written.

You do need to realize that my interventions here are limited to those subjects I feel I can press comfortably. It's why I am hardly ever in trouble, shown wrong, or unable to support my points with evidence.

I assure you though, that there are other venues in which I pursue what I hope is my critical exploration of the world in which I (we) live.

Vandaler · « **Reply #77 on:** June 10, 2011, 01:17:03 PM »

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If the "core values" are known to be at odds with an even merely morally certain truth, why would anybody "rate" this with favor?

Well reasoned error?

AH !

I love this question... Maybe I should have used the term "core beliefs" instead of "core values" since the latter implies like you say; moral judgement. The scope of moral judgement is rather limited and does not apply to many worldly debates which often only revolve around fact-checking and soundly inferring from those facts.

Vandaler · « **Reply #78 on:** June 10, 2011, 01:56:04 PM »

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But the core values of a Catholic necessarily creates enmity with the world and its spirit. The manifestation of this enmity comes about in various forms and that which you relentlessly attack is but a secondary, accidental feature that relates to concrete historical events.

But those enmity I relentlessly attack are not those that are created by the core values of Catholics against the world and it's spirit. If it was, the types of arguments I would encounter would be reflective of that (and they would be of far greater quality, I hope)

I've had a few scraps lately Caminus, I'd be more then impressed if you could extract the essence of those enmities and how they have in fact motivated my opponent responses. I debate these subject on many sites Sir, and the arguments are the same everywhere... Catholic or not.

You don't think it's "Catholicly" motivated to throw around that Silverstein said "pull it" or that Vikings used to sweat around in shorts now do you ? *Irony*

SJB · « **Reply #79 on:** June 10, 2011, 03:25:30 PM »

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If the "core values" are known to be at odds with an even merely morally certain truth, why would anybody "rate" this with favor?

Well reasoned error?

AH !

I love this question... Maybe I should have used the term "core beliefs" instead of "core values" since the latter implies like you say; moral judgement. The scope of moral judgement is rather limited and does not apply to many worldly debates which often only revolve around fact-checking and soundly inferring from those facts.

Moral certainty has nothing to do with "moral judgment." If you don't understand these terms, maybe you need to do a little more study before you post?

Darcy · « **Reply #80 on:** June 10, 2011, 03:40:04 PM »

And Montini gave away the Papal Tiara to the U.N. who sold it to a Jew!?!
Maybe that is symbolic that they are really in charge of the conciliar church.
That would explain why the N.O. catholics I know are so gungho on Jews getting Jerusalem.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #81 on:** June 10, 2011, 04:06:24 PM »

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That's rather subjective, your "comfortable nest of conformity" is in fact the world in which you live and the spirit of which you appear to imbide, your accuracy regarding secular events notwithstanding.

Sure, and it's valid for everyone. Drawing conclusions from a reputation rating on an opinionated board is really not much of a conclusion. It only measures someones popularity. Few have the discipline or the inclinations to rate favorably a well reasoned and written post if it don't agree with their core values.

And why do you think people like Raoul, Gladius Veritatis, and Caminus became popular here? It was the religious knowledge in their posts that made them popular, not how many posts they have or how long they've been around. That's why your reputation is zero, your posts lack logical reasononing in several different areas, particularly when dealing with politics and the NWO.

Vandaler · « **Reply #82 on:** June 10, 2011, 05:50:05 PM »

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Quote from: SJB
If the "core values" are known to be at odds with an even merely morally certain truth, why would anybody "rate" this with favor?

Well reasoned error?

AH !

I love this question... Maybe I should have used the term "core beliefs" instead of "core values" since the latter implies like you say; moral judgement. The scope of moral judgement is rather limited and does not apply to many worldly debates which often only revolve around fact-checking and soundly inferring from those facts.

Moral certainty has nothing to do with "moral judgment." If you don't understand these terms, maybe you need to do a little more study before you post?

You're right, I missed the meaning of the term and your entiere statement. I don't have much to say about the revised meaning, especially since this is only about guidance to rate posts.

It's given to you the opportunity to reward or punish in whatever manner you wish. Enjoy.