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« on: December 19, 2013, 02:32:55 AM »
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  •  Pope Francis has strongly encouraged the bishops and cardinals of the Roman Curia to spend time hearing confessions weekly at a local parish, according to a priest of the church in question, Santo Spirito in Sassia.

    The announcement was made at the end of evening Mass on Dec. 15 by Fr. Jozef Bart, a parish priest at Santo Spirito in Sassia, and was reported by “Inside the Vatican.”

    Fr. Bart announced that the initiative “had been planned to begin in January, but this week, word came down that the Pope wished to begin immediately.”

    According to Fr. Bart, Pope Francis is doing this because “he wishes to emphasize the importance of Confession, and of God’s great goodness in forgiving human sin.”

    Archbishop Konrad Krajewski, the papal almoner, has already been hearing Confessions at the parish for “several weeks,” according to “Inside the Vatican.”

    Santo Spirito in Sassia is located on the Via dei Penitenzieri, a walk of about 1,300 feet, or 5-6 minutes, from the front of St. Peter's Square, and is dedicated to the Divine Mercy devotion. It is a cardinal titular church, currently held by Cardinal-Priest Fiorenzo Angelini.

    Pope Francis has several times underscored the importance of the Confession for Christian life, especially during the homilies he gives during Mass at the Saint Martha House chapel.

    On Oct. 25, Pope Francis preached that “confessing our sins is not going to a psychiatrist, or to a torture chamber: it’s saying to the Lord, ‘Lord, I am a sinner,’ but saying it through the brother, because this says it concretely. ‘I am sinner because of this, that and the other thing’.”

    Pope Francis often affirms that he himself is a sinner, and has made it known that he goes to Confession every two weeks.

    According to a Vatican source who spoke to CNA Dec. 13, Pope Francis wanted to make it clear that he confesses.

    The source recounted that during his trip to Brazil for the World Youth Day, Pope Francis felt the need to confess, and asked for a confessor. The confessor went to hear Pope Francis’ confession and, after the confession, he told Pope Francis that he did not want to be noticed.

    Pope Francis said, “You must be noticed, because it must be clear that the Pope himself goes to confession."

    http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/pope-urges-curial-officials-to-hear-confessions-at-local-parish/

    Here is just the place for the sodomites, adulturers, prostitutes, thieves, liars, and sinners of all sorts

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    « Reply #1 on: December 19, 2013, 09:14:18 AM »
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  • The Eastern Orthodox clergy and all such heretics all say the same as Francis about confession. It does not make them Catholic.


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    « Reply #2 on: December 19, 2013, 09:20:43 AM »
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    Pope Francis said, “You must be noticed, because it must be clear that the Pope himself goes to confession."

    Here is just the place for the sodomites, adulturers, prostitutes, thieves, liars, and sinners of all sorts.


    But what good will it be to go to a Conciliar confession when the pope himself declares that he doesn't have the faculties to judge?


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    « Reply #3 on: December 19, 2013, 11:02:58 AM »
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  • Fr. Bart announced this?  

    Why no encyclical or apostolic letter or even just a public announcement by Pope Francis himself?  Why get the word out by backdoor methods?

    Poche, what are your novus ordite insiders telling you about this?

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    « Reply #4 on: December 19, 2013, 11:08:44 AM »
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    Pope Francis has strongly encouraged the bishops and cardinals of the Roman Curia to spend time hearing confessions weekly at a local parish


    Who are they to judge someone's sin in the confessional?


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    « Reply #5 on: December 19, 2013, 10:34:41 PM »
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    The Eastern Orthodox clergy and all such heretics all say the same as Francis about confession. It does not make them Catholic.

    No, but it brings them closer to the truth that is the Catholic Faith.

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    « Reply #6 on: December 19, 2013, 10:40:04 PM »
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    Pope Francis said, “You must be noticed, because it must be clear that the Pope himself goes to confession."

    Here is just the place for the sodomites, adulturers, prostitutes, thieves, liars, and sinners of all sorts.


    But what good will it be to go to a Conciliar confession when the pope himself declares that he doesn't have the faculties to judge?


    There is a difference when speaking in the context of someone with good will who wanders into the Church in search of God and the relation between the penitent and the confesor in the sacrament of confession.

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    « Reply #7 on: December 19, 2013, 10:41:36 PM »
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    Fr. Bart announced this?  

    Why no encyclical or apostolic letter or even just a public announcement by Pope Francis himself?  Why get the word out by backdoor methods?

    Poche, what are your novus ordite insiders telling you about this?

    There are different ways of teaching. Not everything has to be an encyclical or an apostolic letter. Sometimes you have to use all the doors of the house, not just the front door.


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    « Reply #8 on: December 19, 2013, 10:42:50 PM »
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    Pope Francis has strongly encouraged the bishops and cardinals of the Roman Curia to spend time hearing confessions weekly at a local parish


    Who are they to judge someone's sin in the confessional?

    They are the legitimate sucessors of the apostles.

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    « Reply #9 on: December 19, 2013, 11:07:29 PM »
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    Pope Francis has strongly encouraged the bishops and cardinals of the Roman Curia to spend time hearing confessions weekly at a local parish


    Who are they to judge someone's sin in the confessional?

    They are the legitimate sucessors of the apostles.


    Poche,

    Did Pope Francis mean it when he said "Who am I to judge?"  The context for this was homosexuality.

    Besides, why is Fr Bart saying this and not the Pope himself?

    Also, I thought novus ordites referred to "Confession" as reconciliation - you know, two equals with each saying they were wrong and everything is cool again.

    If they are legitimate successors, why the dogmatic allegiance to the post-Vatican II church to the exclusion of the Catholic Church of all times?  

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    « Reply #10 on: December 19, 2013, 11:09:33 PM »
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    Fr. Bart announced this?  

    Why no encyclical or apostolic letter or even just a public announcement by Pope Francis himself?  Why get the word out by backdoor methods?

    Poche, what are your novus ordite insiders telling you about this?

    There are different ways of teaching. Not everything has to be an encyclical or an apostolic letter. Sometimes you have to use all the doors of the house, not just the front door.


    Isn't it true that for confession to be pushed again as if it were a new idea, someone in a position of authority use have downplayed it to the point of extinction in the recent past.


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    « Reply #11 on: December 19, 2013, 11:59:37 PM »
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  • "According to a Vatican source who spoke to CNA Dec. 13, Pope Francis wanted to make it clear that he confesses.

    The source recounted that during his trip to Brazil for the World Youth Day, Pope Francis felt the need to confess, and asked for a confessor. The confessor went to hear Pope Francis’ confession and, after the confession, he told Pope Francis that he did not want to be noticed.

    Pope Francis said, “You must be noticed, because it must be clear that the Pope himself goes to confession." "

    His Humbleness just showing off for his audience to perpetuate his own vain popularity.  Smacks of the Pharisees' conduct to which I believe he has previously likened Catholic prayer.

     

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