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Confession with priests ordained in New Rite
« on: May 07, 2016, 11:05:26 AM »
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  • Has this been discussed on CathInfo, or perhaps the better question is
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    « Reply #1 on: May 07, 2016, 11:39:55 AM »
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  • I can start with, a Cardinal listened to my daughters confession(yes, a new order) and she mentioned fighting with brothers and sisters.  He laughed and  said a bad word, and she told mom what happened( mom=me).  That was in 1994.  My mom, had in their confessions in the 60's that they could used birth control, "let their conscience be their guide= Jeminy Cricket of disney idea)



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    « Reply #2 on: May 07, 2016, 03:49:07 PM »
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  • When I came to tradition I made a general confession and reconfessed all the sins I confessed to Novus Ordo priests for fear that they were invalidly ordained. But I did this on my own and not at the direction of an SSPX priest. I don't know what the official policy is about Novus Ordo confessions.
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    « Reply #3 on: May 07, 2016, 05:35:29 PM »
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  • I am as I post this entertaining an old friend of mine, she is currently a house guest till Tuesday.  She is 80 years old and a staunce Novus Ordoite, of course you can imagine our very polite conversations.  One interesting point she told me is, they now have in her parish church a choice of either going to Confession or doing Penance Service.   :rolleyes:

    What is Penance Service?  Well it is several people coming together and saying some prayers, then if they desire too, they can go into the Confessional and confess only ONE sin.  But only if they want too.   This is what she elects to do, her Penance Service instead of Confession.

    What will they think of next.

    She did say that this was not the norm, but only in a few parishes.  

    Her solution of the crisis is, if God wants it this way it will be this way.  
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    « Reply #4 on: May 07, 2016, 06:44:17 PM »
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  • Quote from: MyrnaM
    What is Penance Service?  Well it is several people coming together and saying some prayers, then if they desire too, they can go into the Confessional and confess only ONE sin.  But only if they want too.   This is what she elects to do, her Penance Service instead of Confession.

    This reminds me of my first Novus Ordo confession after I started my conversion before I started going to the SSPX. I confessed my worst sin first and then the priest stopped me and didn't let me confess the rest of my sins so I only confessed one sin. Though when I went to the Novus Ordo they still had regular confession and not the penance services you describe but the priests usually didn't let me confess all my sins, they almost always stopped me before I was finished.

    When I went to the SSPX and made my general confession it took a very long time, but the priest allowed me to confess all of my sins.
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    « Reply #5 on: May 08, 2016, 12:03:08 AM »
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  • Quote from: MyrnaM
    I am as I post this entertaining an old friend of mine, she is currently a house guest till Tuesday.  She is 80 years old and a staunce Novus Ordoite, of course you can imagine our very polite conversations.  One interesting point she told me is, they now have in her parish church a choice of either going to Confession or doing Penance Service.   :rolleyes:

    What is Penance Service?  Well it is several people coming together and saying some prayers, then if they desire too, they can go into the Confessional and confess only ONE sin.  But only if they want too.   This is what she elects to do, her Penance Service instead of Confession.

    How Protestant.

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    « Reply #6 on: May 08, 2016, 03:23:14 PM »
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  • Fr. Peter Scott

    Question: Can a traditional Catholic go to Confession to a Novus Ordo priest?

    Answer: It would certainly be valid to go to confession to a priest who still celebrates the Novus Ordo Mass, provided that the penitent were assured of the doctrinal orthodoxy of the priest, his intention of doing what the Church does, and his use of the correct formula of absolution. It would furthermore be permissible in a state of necessity, such as when a person is dying and no traditional priest can be found.

    However, it is not easy to have the assurance of a valid absolution, given the fact that the post-conciliar church consistently downgrades the reality and gravity of mortal sin, the benefits of confessing venial sins, the graces to be obtained from frequent confession, and the necessity of doing penance. Very often souls who have felt the urgent need to go to a Novus Ordo priest have come to me afterwards in confession, doubting the validity of their confession to this priest, on account of his trivializing of their sins.

    Furthermore, I do not hesitate to strongly recommend against going to Confession to such a priest, even when there is an assurance of a valid absolution. A penitent does not go to Confession simply to receive the absolution of his sins. He has the desire to receive all the effects of the sacrament, including the direction, and if need be reprimand of the confessor, growth in the love of God and in sanctifying grace, a firmer purpose of amendment and the satisfaction of the temporal punishment due to his sins. All this is only possible if he sees in the confessor a judge, a teacher and a physician. It is to guarantee these full effects of the sacrament of Penance that the Church supplies jurisdiction so that the faithful can ask any priest to hear their confessions, for any just reason (Canon 2261, §2, 1917 Code and Canon 1335 of the 1983 code).

    Manifestly it is not possible to have confidence in the guidance of a priest who compromises with modernism by celebrating the New Mass, even if he otherwise appears orthodox. Neither his judgment as to the reality of our contrition, nor his instruction as to the gravity of our sins, nor his remedies for the ills of our sins can be depended upon. The supernatural vision of Faith will necessarily have been undermined by the humanism and naturalism of the New Mass and the spirit of Vatican II. Our souls are much too precious to place in the hands of those who lack conviction.

    Consequently, outside case of danger of death, it is preferable to make an act of perfect contrition, and to wait until one can open one’s soul to a traditional priest that can be trusted.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some ceremonies...