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Offline Clemens Maria

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The fewness of those saved
« on: November 24, 2020, 02:37:10 PM »
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    [6] And when they had passed through Phrygia, and the country of Galatia, they were forbidden by the Holy Ghost to preach the word in Asia. [7] And when they were come into Mysia, they attempted to go into Bythynia, and the Spirit of Jesus suffered them not.  -- Acts 16:6-7

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    Ver. 6. They were forbidden by the Holy Ghost, to go, and preach at that time in the Lesser Asia, perhaps because their preaching in Macedonia was more necessary; or because S. John was to be sent into Asia. Wi. ---Forbidden. Why?  Because they were not yet prepared to receive the gospel; or, perhaps, these provinces were reserved for S. John, as Bithnyia was for S. Luke.  Menochius.--- S. Leo compares this question to many others respecting the inscrutable judgments of God.  Why did the Son of God come into the world many ages before?  Why did he suffer so many to die in ignorance?  Why are there yet so many in infidelity?  Why, in one family, does one believe and is converted, while another remains in darkness, and crime?  Who shall account for the exercise he pleases to make of his rigour, or his mercy, when all were justly victims of the former?  S. Leo de vocat. Gentium. lib. ii. c. 2.

    Clearly, the pessimistic view is not forbidden to Catholics.  I could add other questions too.  Why does one convert and then fall away back into the vomit a little while later?  Why are people so mesmerized by the passing pleasures of this world?  Why would they choose what amounts to nothing over even the possibility of an eternal reward?  Or why would someone risk an eternal punishment for what amounts to nothing in this world?  And yet who can deny that of the 7 billion people on the face of the earth, something less than a million or two actually believe that man is fallen in original sin and that we must believe that God is a Holy Trinity, Father, Son and Holy Ghost and the Son has been born of the Virgin Mary and that we must be baptized into the Mystical Body of Christ in order to be received into Heaven?

    Forget about sede vacantism and BOD/EENS and the validity of the Conciliar orders, etc.  If you add up all the conservative and traditional novus ordos, the R&R, the sedes, the home aloners, etc, how many do you think actually believe that the Church is necessary FOR THEM (never mind about if it is necessary for every one who wants to be saved)?  If we are really generous, I doubt there are more than a couple of million but let's say 7 million.  1 out every 1000.  The rest are certainly damned because not only do they not have faith but neither do they live good lives.  They might appear to be nice on the surface, but there's a lot you don't know about them.  Every man is a liar.  Even the just man sins 7 times a day.  That's why we hear the stories about saints dying and at the same moment 80000 other souls died and they all went to hell except for the saint and a couple of other monks.  That's why Jacinta said that in WW2 almost everyone was going to hell.

    And I find it interesting that in Act 16:6-7 that the Spirit forbade Paul from going certain places.  God certainly did NOT send anyone to Sodom and Gomorrha to evangelize them.  Why would He send someone when clearly those people were already being punished?  The whole earth now makes Sodom seem like no big deal.  Sodomy is old hat.  Now we are into transhumanism.  It's the great apostasy.


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    Re: The fewness of those saved
    « Reply #1 on: November 24, 2020, 02:58:49 PM »
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  • THE TEACHINGS OF THE FATHERS, DOCTORS AND SAINTS OF THE CHURCH UPON THE FINAL DESTINY OF MOST PEOPLE. 

    Notwithstanding assurances that God did not create any man for Hell, and that He wishes all men to be saved, it remains equally true that few will be saved; that only few will go to Heaven; and that the greater part of mankind will be lost for ever. (St. John Neuman)

    It is certain that few are saved. (St. Augustine)

    The majority of men shall not see God. (St. Julian the Martyr)

    The greater part of men choose to be damned rather than to love almighty God. (St. Alphonsus Liguori)

    So vast a number of miserable souls perish, and so comparatively few are saved. (St. Philip Neri)

    Among adults there are few saved because of the sins of the flesh....With exception of those who die in childhood, most men will be damned. (St. Remigius of Rheims)

    Death bed conversions/repentance-there are hardly any: Out of 100,000 sinners who continue in sin until death, scarcely ONE will be saved. (St. Jerome)
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    The MAJORITY OF CATHOLICS GO TO HELL:

    The greater number of Christians today are damned. The destiny of those dying on one day is that very few  -  not as many as ten  -   went straight to Heaven; many remained in Purgatory; and THOSE CAST INTO HELL WERE NUMEROUS AS SNOWFLAKES in mid-winter. (Bl. Anna Maria Taigi)

    There are many who arrive at the faith, but few who are led to the heavenly kingdom. Behold how many are gathered here for today's Feast-Day; we fill the church from wall to wall. Yet who knows how FEW they are who shall be numbered in that chosen company of the elect? (Pope St. Gregory the Great)

    The Ark, which in the midst of the Flood was the symbol of the Church, was wide below and narrow above, .... It was wide where the animals were, narrow where men lived; for the Holy Church is indeed wide in number of those who are carnal minded, narrow in the number of those who are spiritual.
    ( Pope St. Gregory the Great)

    Shall we all be saved? Shall we go to heaven? Alas, my children we do not know at all! But I tremble when I see so many souls lost these days. See, they fall into Hell as leaves fall from the trees at the approach of winter. (St. John Vianney)
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    MOST PRIESTS GO TO HELL:

    I do not speak rashly, but how I feel and think. I do not think that many priests are saved, but that those who perish are more numerous. ( St. John Chrysostom)

    St. John Chrysostom, sometime Patriarch of Constantinople, has something to say, and to such a personage your author relinquishes the floor:

    I do not speak rashly, but as I feel and think., I do not think that many priests are saved but that those that perish are far more numerous. The reason is that the office requires a great soul. For there are many things to make a priest swerve from rectitude, and he requires great vigilance on every side. Do you not perceive how many qualities a bishop must have that he may be apt to teach; patient towards the wicked, firm and faithful in teaching the Word? How many difficulties herein.

    Moreover the loss of others is imputed to him. I need say no more. If but one dies without baptism, does it not entirely endanger his salvation? For the loss of one soul is so great an evil as no man can understand. If the salvation of one soul is of such importance that, for its sake, the Son of God became man and suffered so much, think of the penalty the loss of one soul will entail. (Third Homily, Acts of the Apostles)


    Many religious go to Hell because they do not keep their vows. (St. Vincent Ferrer)
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    CATHOLICS NOT ASPIRING AND NOT LIVING AS SAINTS WILL GO TO HELL:

    They who are enlightened to walk in the way of perfection, and through lukewarmness wish to tread the ordinary paths, shall be abandoned. (Bl. Angela of Foligno)

    They who are to be saved as Saints, and wish to be saved as imperfect souls, shall not be saved. (Pope St. Gregory the Great)

    St. Teresa.... had she not risen from the state of lukewarmness in which she lived, she would in the end have lost the grace of God and been damned. ( St. Alphonsus Liguori)

    How many inhabitants of this city may perhaps be saved? What I am about to say is very terrible, yet I will not conceal it from you. Out of this thickly populated city with it's thousands of inhabitants, not 100 people will be saved. I even doubt whether there will be as many as that! ( St. John Chrysostom - the city was Antioch and its inhabitants were known to be in pursuit of comfort and the good things of things life.)

    A multitude of souls fall into the depths of Hell. (St. Anthony Mary Claret - It has been revealed that on the day of the death of St. Bernard their also died 79,999 other people, and of this total of 80,000 who died, only St. Bernard and two other monks were saved. So out of 80,000 dead, 79,997 went to Hell! )

    In the great deluge in the days of Noah, all mankind perished, eight persons alone being saved in the Ark. In our days a deluge, not of water, but sins, continually inundates the earth, and out of this deluge very few escape. Scarcely anyone is saved. ( St. Alphonsus Liguori)

    Yes indeed, many will be damned; few will be saved. (St. Benedict Joseph Labro)

    If you only knew the women who will go to Hell because they did not bring into the world the children they should have given to it. ( St. John Vianney)

    He who goes to Hell, goes of his own accord. Everyone who is damned, is damned because he wills his own damnation. (St. Alphonsus Liguori)
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    THOSE WHO HAVE HEARD NOTHING ABOUT THE FAITH CAN ALSO GO TO HELL:

    When such unbelievers are damned, it is on account of other sins, which cannot be taken away without the faith, but not because of their sin of unbelief. (St. Thomas Aquinas)

    Everyone that is of truth hears my voice. (St. John 18:37)

    It may be true that there are, in the remotest parts of the world, some people who have not yet seen the light of the Savior. Certainly, God's manifold and ineffable goodness has always provided, and still provides, for all mankind in such a way that not one of the reprobates can find an excuse as though he had been refused the light of truth. ( St. Prosper of Aquitaine)

    No one is lost without knowing it, and no one is deceived without wanting to be. (St. Teresa of Avila)
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    OUTSIDE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, THERE IS NO SALVATION:

    No matter how praiseworthy his actions might seem, he who is separated from the Catholic Church will never enjoy eternal life (Pope Gregory XVI)

    O ye atheists who do not believe in God, what fools you are! But if you do believe there is a God, you must also believe there is a true religion. And if not the Roman Catholic, which is it? Perhaps that of the pagans who admit many gods, thus they deny them all. Perhaps that of Mohammed, a religion invented by an impostor and framed for beasts rather than humans. Perhaps that of the Jєωs who had the true faith at one time but, because they rejected their redeemer, lost their faith, their country, their everything. Perhaps that of the heretics who, separating themselves from our Church, have confused all revealed dogmas in such a way that the belief of one heretic is contrary to that of his neighbor. O holy faith! Enlighten all those poor blind creatures who run to eternal perdition! (St. Alphonsus Liguori)
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24


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    Re: The fewness of those saved
    « Reply #2 on: November 24, 2020, 03:10:13 PM »
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  • Every man is a liar.  
    Fr. Carl Pulvermacher use to say, "you can't lie, even to save the world". If SSPX priests would just teach that to their congregation, their congregations would be a light to the world.
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Re: The fewness of those saved
    « Reply #3 on: November 24, 2020, 03:41:43 PM »
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  • Before man is life and death, good and evil, that which he shall choose shall be given him. - Ecclesiasticus 15:18


    "...Among all the mysteries that we live amongst, is that of the fact that God saves those whom He wills. And yet those who are lost are lost because they will, no one is saved against his will and no one is damned against his will. At the same time almighty God has known from all eternity who would be His, whom he would succeed in saving. And all the jubilation that the Church expresses in its many Masses and in its office is over the fact that those whom God regards as His elect will be saved..." - Snip from a sermon given by Fr. Wathen which echoes St. Teresa of Avila
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: The fewness of those saved
    « Reply #4 on: November 24, 2020, 03:55:01 PM »
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  • This is the scariest topic that I read on Cathinfo. I know only the few will be saved. It is a fearful truth.


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  • Wear the scapular, practice the 5 First Saturdays and 9 First Fridays. Have devotion to Our Lady of Sorrows. All these have promises of heaven.

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    Re: The fewness of those saved
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  • 1. Whosoever shall faithfully serve me by the recitation of the Rosary shall receive signal graces.
     
    2. I promise my special protection and the greatest Graces to all those who shall recite the Rosary.
     
    3. The Rosary shall be a powerful armor against Hell, it will destroy vice, decrease sin, and defeat heresies.
     
    4. It will cause good works to flourish; it will obtain for souls the abundant Mercy of God; it will withdraw the hearts of men [and women] from the love of the world and its vanities, and will lift them to the desire for Eternal Things. Oh, that souls would sanctify themselves by this means.
     
    5. The soul which recommends itself to me by the recitation of the Rosary shall not perish.
     
    6. Whosoever shall recite the Rosary devoutly, applying himself [herself] to the consideration of its Sacred Mysteries shall never be conquered by misfortune. God will not chastise him in His justice, he shall not perish by an unprovided death; if he be just he shall remain in the Grace of God, and become worthy of Eternal Life.
     
    7. Whoever shall have a true devotion for the Rosary shall not die without the Sacraments of the Church.
     
    8. Those who are faithful to recite the Rosary shall have during their life and at their death the Light of God and the plenitude of His Graces; at the moment of death they shall participate in the Merits of the Saints in Paradise.
     
    9. I shall deliver from Purgatory those who have been devoted to the Rosary.
     
    10. The faithful children of the Rosary shall merit a high degree of Glory in Heaven.
     
    11. You shall obtain all you ask of me by recitation of the Rosary.
     
    12. All those who propagate the Holy Rosary shall be aided by me in their necessities.
     
    13. I have obtained from my Divine Son that all the advocates of the Rosary shall have for intercessors the entire Celestial Court during their life and at the hour of death.
     
    14. All who recite the Rosary are my sons, and brothers of my only Son, Jesus Christ.
     
    15. Devotion to my Rosary is a great sign of predestination.

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    Re: The fewness of those saved
    « Reply #7 on: November 24, 2020, 09:18:42 PM »
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    11/21/2020



    Dear Resistance Trad Catholic

    "Peace on Earth"

    The battle lines between good and evil are becoming more and more manifest and clear. With all of the events that have been taking place across our Country, there is much disorder and chaos.

    But in our world of sin and darkness, chaos and violence, we can bring the light of the Infant Savior to the public and share in the glad tidings of His Birth.
    We need to bring the peace and calm of the Infant Jesus back to our Country.
    The peace and calm of that first Christmas night when Our Savior was born can be brought back if we turn to Him through His Holy Mother.

    We can do this by giving to the public the eternal gift of prayers and intercession on society’s behalf by praying the Rosary and reminding them that we are here to celebrate the Birth of Our Savior.

    If you would like to hold a rosary rally in honor of the Infant Jesus, click here and sign up to be a Rosary Rally Captain.

    With Christmas approaching, and in the spirit of the Birth of Our Savior, America Needs Fatima is organizing a Public Rosary Rally to give praise to the Child Jesus as the Angels did on that night over 2000 years ago.

    Jesus was born in a time of incredible sin and vice yet the angels of heaven spread the good news of the coming of Our Savior. We can imitate the Angels and spread the glad tidings of Our Savior and close 2020 in a peaceful and holy way. The answer to death and chaos is true life and peace that can only be brought about by the peace of Jesus. We can do our part to bring about the peace by having a Rosary Rally in public to honor the Birth of Our Savior and offer reparation to the Holy Infant for the sins of our society.

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    Together, we can work to put Christ back in Christmas and back into society.

    If you would like to participate in spreading the glad tidings of Christmas cheer to your community then consider becoming a rosary captain for the Christmas Rosary Rally taking place in December. May the Christ Child smile upon you this Christmas.
    I remain your friend,
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    Re: The fewness of those saved
    « Reply #8 on: November 25, 2020, 09:26:25 AM »
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  • THE TEACHINGS OF THE FATHERS, DOCTORS AND SAINTS OF THE CHURCH UPON THE FINAL DESTINY OF MOST PEOPLE.

    Notwithstanding assurances that God did not create any man for Hell, and that He wishes all men to be saved, it remains equally true that few will be saved; that only few will go to Heaven; and that the greater part of mankind will be lost for ever. (St. John Neuman)

    It is certain that few are saved. (St. Augustine)

    The majority of men shall not see God. (St. Julian the Martyr)

    The greater part of men choose to be damned rather than to love almighty God. (St. Alphonsus Liguori)

    So vast a number of miserable souls perish, and so comparatively few are saved. (St. Philip Neri)

    Among adults there are few saved because of the sins of the flesh....With exception of those who die in childhood, most men will be damned. (St. Remigius of Rheims)

    Death bed conversions/repentance-there are hardly any: Out of 100,000 sinners who continue in sin until death, scarcely ONE will be saved. (St. Jerome)
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    The MAJORITY OF CATHOLICS GO TO HELL:

    The greater number of Christians today are damned. The destiny of those dying on one day is that very few  -  not as many as ten  -   went straight to Heaven; many remained in Purgatory; and THOSE CAST INTO HELL WERE NUMEROUS AS SNOWFLAKES in mid-winter. (Bl. Anna Maria Taigi)

    There are many who arrive at the faith, but few who are led to the heavenly kingdom. Behold how many are gathered here for today's Feast-Day; we fill the church from wall to wall. Yet who knows how FEW they are who shall be numbered in that chosen company of the elect? (Pope St. Gregory the Great)

    The Ark, which in the midst of the Flood was the symbol of the Church, was wide below and narrow above, .... It was wide where the animals were, narrow where men lived; for the Holy Church is indeed wide in number of those who are carnal minded, narrow in the number of those who are spiritual.
    ( Pope St. Gregory the Great)

    Shall we all be saved? Shall we go to heaven? Alas, my children we do not know at all! But I tremble when I see so many souls lost these days. See, they fall into Hell as leaves fall from the trees at the approach of winter. (St. John Vianney)
    --------------------------------------------

    MOST PRIESTS GO TO HELL:

    I do not speak rashly, but how I feel and think. I do not think that many priests are saved, but that those who perish are more numerous. ( St. John Chrysostom)

    St. John Chrysostom, sometime Patriarch of Constantinople, has something to say, and to such a personage your author relinquishes the floor:

    I do not speak rashly, but as I feel and think., I do not think that many priests are saved but that those that perish are far more numerous. The reason is that the office requires a great soul. For there are many things to make a priest swerve from rectitude, and he requires great vigilance on every side. Do you not perceive how many qualities a bishop must have that he may be apt to teach; patient towards the wicked, firm and faithful in teaching the Word? How many difficulties herein.

    Moreover the loss of others is imputed to him. I need say no more. If but one dies without baptism, does it not entirely endanger his salvation? For the loss of one soul is so great an evil as no man can understand. If the salvation of one soul is of such importance that, for its sake, the Son of God became man and suffered so much, think of the penalty the loss of one soul will entail. (Third Homily, Acts of the Apostles)


    Many religious go to Hell because they do not keep their vows. (St. Vincent Ferrer)
    --------------------------------------------------------

    CATHOLICS NOT ASPIRING AND NOT LIVING AS SAINTS WILL GO TO HELL:

    They who are enlightened to walk in the way of perfection, and through lukewarmness wish to tread the ordinary paths, shall be abandoned. (Bl. Angela of Foligno)

    They who are to be saved as Saints, and wish to be saved as imperfect souls, shall not be saved. (Pope St. Gregory the Great)

    St. Teresa.... had she not risen from the state of lukewarmness in which she lived, she would in the end have lost the grace of God and been damned. ( St. Alphonsus Liguori)

    How many inhabitants of this city may perhaps be saved? What I am about to say is very terrible, yet I will not conceal it from you. Out of this thickly populated city with it's thousands of inhabitants, not 100 people will be saved. I even doubt whether there will be as many as that! ( St. John Chrysostom - the city was Antioch and its inhabitants were known to be in pursuit of comfort and the good things of things life.)

    A multitude of souls fall into the depths of Hell. (St. Anthony Mary Claret - It has been revealed that on the day of the death of St. Bernard their also died 79,999 other people, and of this total of 80,000 who died, only St. Bernard and two other monks were saved. So out of 80,000 dead, 79,997 went to Hell! )

    In the great deluge in the days of Noah, all mankind perished, eight persons alone being saved in the Ark. In our days a deluge, not of water, but sins, continually inundates the earth, and out of this deluge very few escape. Scarcely anyone is saved. ( St. Alphonsus Liguori)

    Yes indeed, many will be damned; few will be saved. (St. Benedict Joseph Labro)

    If you only knew the women who will go to Hell because they did not bring into the world the children they should have given to it. ( St. John Vianney)

    He who goes to Hell, goes of his own accord. Everyone who is damned, is damned because he wills his own damnation. (St. Alphonsus Liguori)
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    THOSE WHO HAVE HEARD NOTHING ABOUT THE FAITH CAN ALSO GO TO HELL:

    When such unbelievers are damned, it is on account of other sins, which cannot be taken away without the faith, but not because of their sin of unbelief. (St. Thomas Aquinas)

    Everyone that is of truth hears my voice. (St. John 18:37)

    It may be true that there are, in the remotest parts of the world, some people who have not yet seen the light of the Savior. Certainly, God's manifold and ineffable goodness has always provided, and still provides, for all mankind in such a way that not one of the reprobates can find an excuse as though he had been refused the light of truth. ( St. Prosper of Aquitaine)

    No one is lost without knowing it, and no one is deceived without wanting to be. (St. Teresa of Avila)
    ---------------------------------------------------------------------

    OUTSIDE OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, THERE IS NO SALVATION:

    No matter how praiseworthy his actions might seem, he who is separated from the Catholic Church will never enjoy eternal life (Pope Gregory XVI)

    O ye atheists who do not believe in God, what fools you are! But if you do believe there is a God, you must also believe there is a true religion. And if not the Roman Catholic, which is it? Perhaps that of the pagans who admit many gods, thus they deny them all. Perhaps that of Mohammed, a religion invented by an impostor and framed for beasts rather than humans. Perhaps that of the Jєωs who had the true faith at one time but, because they rejected their redeemer, lost their faith, their country, their everything. Perhaps that of the heretics who, separating themselves from our Church, have confused all revealed dogmas in such a way that the belief of one heretic is contrary to that of his neighbor. O holy faith! Enlighten all those poor blind creatures who run to eternal perdition! (St. Alphonsus Liguori)

    At my SSPX chapel the sermons we receive are insipid. There is never a sermon about how the Catholic faith is lived in our times. No how to instructions, their solution to the crisis of the faith we are living in, is just bible explanations,  catechism, and forced aloud "active participation" in the mass.

    For those priests with ears that hear and eyes that see, the above sheet which I received at an SSPX retreat in 1997 at Ridgefield, CT, can serve as the template for their sermons for the rest of their lives as priest. Explain what these quotes mean, how they apply today. Here is just one example, and THE sin that takes most sinners to hell:

    "Among adults there are few saved because of the sins of the flesh....With exception of those who die in childhood, most men will be damned". (St. Remigius of Rheims)

    How does that apply today? Men that watch pornography, movies with impurity of the flesh, going to a beach where women are in bikinis. Women dressing in immodest clothes that send men to hell. Women kissing, fondling and fornicating before marriage. False annulments + living in adultery. Adultery, divorced and re-married going to communion.........

    A priest in his lifetime will not complete the use of this one sheet and will save innumerable souls. Yet most priest will not venture to go there, because "they are afraid of scaring people away", and so they will continue with their insipid sermons about non-offensive subjects like the bible and catechism, and "active participation"  with no how to apply them to life.
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24