Stubborn, you say you use dogma. How do you know your using dogma? What are the specific words that must be present in a dogma? Can dogmas only come from true Popes and Councils? Please give me the specific words and sources.
The words and wording of teachings change, the meanings of the various infallibly defined doctrines do not. No one can possibly post all the different wording used to define dogma without posting all the defined dogmas.
For the purpose of this thread, let's take the doctrine of papal infallibility. Whoever wants to know when the pope teaches infallibly, that is, when he speaks ex cathedra, then they need read V1.
It literally starts off saying they are about to define a dogma; "...we teach and define as a divinely revealed dogma..."
, it then goes on to do exactly what it says - defines the dogma of papal infallibility - which both the Universal and the Ordinary teachings, ie the Universal Magisterium and Ordinary Magisterium, have as their foundation. IOW, dogma is the foundation, dogma is foundational to the universal and to the ordinary teachings of the Church, they can never disagree, if it seems they disagree, then dogma not only settles the matter, it settles the matter for all time - that is what dogmas do.
They trump everything for all time - but, it is a teaching of the Church that we cannot and must not rely strictly on dogma and ignore other teachings. To do that reduces the meaning of dogmas to a meaningless formula. It is as Pope Pius IX teaches, it is absolutely necessary to refer the matter to dogma when conflict occurs. The buck always stops at the dogma.
Defined dogmas can only come from popes - period. Whether in a council or outside of a council, the pope is only infallible when he speaks ex cathedra, that is when he defines a dogma per the criteria defined at V1. And the pope alone is the only one who defines dogma - that is the dogma the pope himself, pope Pius IX, defined in the First Vatican Council.
Councils do not define dogmas nor are councils "always automatically infallible" - only the pope is infallible and not always - only when he meets the criteria defined at V1.
Nor is the doctrine of papal infallibility promised to bishops or anyone else - only to the pope and only when he defines dogma and only under the "most rigidly and specifically circumscribed" criteria defined at V1. Outside of that specific, defined criteria, he has no infallibility whatsoever and can preach all the error his heart's desires - as the last +50 years testifies.
There is no extension of his infallibility, read: additional infallibility, attached to this dogma as cardinal Manning teaches, that idea is error - and to prove it, all anyone has to do is to read the dogma for themselves. It's not only not in there, any extension of his infallibility isn't even remotely implied. The fact is, the doctrine of "papal infallibility covers a most rigidly and specifically circumscribed area, the most narrowly-defined, I might add, of all the areas of his sovereignty." -
The Great Sacrilege