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Offline JezusDeKoning

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Re: Communion for Protestant Spouses? NOT
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2018, 11:20:09 AM »
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  • This makes less than no sense, but the German Church has always been its own thing. The Germans gave the world the operatic, orchestral Masses (like with Mozart, Beethoven, Liszt, etc.) which turned the liturgy into a concert while other parts of the world stuck with Gregorian chant and hymns.
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    Re: Communion for Protestant Spouses? NOT
    « Reply #16 on: May 10, 2018, 09:06:07 PM »
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  • Proponents said it would help to resolve the suffering of some Protestant spouses unable to receive Holy Communion with their Catholic wives or husbands. Critics called it a “rhetorical trick” that wrongly sought to redefine the sacraments as a means of alleviating mental distress and satisfying spiritual needs.
    Criticism heightened after seven German bishops wrote to the Vatican March 22 to protest the move, arguing that the proposal is “not right” as it touches on “the faith and unity of the Church which is not subject to a vote,” and asking for four areas to be clarified.

    http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/cardinal-mueller-on-intercommunion-meeting-more-clarity-and-courage-needed

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    Re: Communion for Protestant Spouses? NOT
    « Reply #17 on: May 12, 2018, 04:45:33 AM »
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  • Two of the seven, Cardinal Rainer Woelki of Cologne and Bishop Rudolf Voderholzer of Regensburg, arrived at the May 3 meeting hopeful that, given what many considered to be serious doctrinal flaws in the docuмent — and which reliable sources say was opposed by Benedict XVI — the proposal would be thrown out by the Pope, or completely revised.

    http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/cardinal-mueller-on-intercommunion-meeting-more-clarity-and-courage-needed

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    Re: Communion for Protestant Spouses? NOT
    « Reply #18 on: May 16, 2018, 03:50:45 AM »
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  • But to the surprise of many, neither happened. After both sides made their case, Archbishop Luis Ladaria, prefect of the CDF, relayed to the participants that Pope Francis appreciated the “ecuмenical commitment of the German bishops and asks them to find, in a spirit of ecclesial communion, a unanimous result, if possible.” 
    In comments to the Register May 4, Cardinal Gerhard Müller, prefect emeritus of the Congregation for Doctrine of the Faith, expressed his disappointment with the outcome, saying the statement was “very poor” as it contained “no answer to the central, essential question.” It is not possible, he stressed, to be in “sacramental communion without ecclesial communion.”


    http://www.ncregister.com/blog/edward-pentin/cardinal-mueller-on-intercommunion-meeting-more-clarity-and-courage-needed

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    Re: Communion for Protestant Spouses? NOT
    « Reply #19 on: June 04, 2018, 11:26:59 PM »
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  • With the approval of Pope Francis, the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith (CDF) has instructed the German bishops’ conference not to publish a policy that would have allowed Protestant spouses of Catholics to receive Communion on a regular basis.
     Archbishop Luis Ladaria, the prefect of the CDF, wrote on May 25 to Cardinal Reinhard Marx, the president of the German bishops’ conference, saying that it would be inappropriate for the German bishops to promulgate their proposed policy. The Austrian Catholic web site Kath.net obtained a copy of the archbishop’s letter.
     A majority of the German bishops had endorsed the proposal, which would have allowed Protestant spouses to receive the Eucharist more routinely. (Current Church discipline allows for intercommunion only under unusual circuмstances on in cases of “impending grave necessity.”) But a substantial minority had protested and appealed to the Vatican for clarification. After inviting the German bishops to Rome to discuss the issue in May, Pope Francis had urged them to find their own consensus on the question.
     In his May 25 latter Archbishop Ladaria (who will be elevated to the college of cardinals later this month) explained that the German bishops should not adopt their own policy because the issue of intercommunion “touches upon the faith of the Church and is relevant for the universal Church.” He observed that the question also has important implications for ecuмenical relations. Finally, he reminded the German bishops that the question of intercommunion is addressed in the Code of Canon Law.
     Archbishop Ladaria acknowledged that there are differences of opinion on the interpretation of existing canon law, regarding the circuмstances when intercommunion may be justified. He said that the Vatican is now studying the question, and a “timely clarification” can be expected. For now, he wrote, it “appears opportune to leave to the diocesan bishop the judgment on the existence of a ‘grave and urgent necessity’” that would allow for a Protestant to receive Communion.
     Archbishop Ladaria closed his letter by stressing the desire of Pope Francis that the German bishops would maintain “the spirit of episcopal collegiality.”
     
     
     https://www.catholicculture.org/news/hea...ryid=37169
     
     Bottom line the answer is still no.


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    Re: Communion for Protestant Spouses? NOT
    « Reply #20 on: June 05, 2018, 05:37:57 AM »
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  • For now, he wrote, it “appears opportune to leave to the diocesan bishop the judgment on the existence of a ‘grave and urgent necessity’” that would allow for a Protestant to receive Communion.

     Bottom line the answer is still no.

    Bottom line is that the answer is that each diocesan bishop allow it but it's just not the right time ("opportune") to issue a formal docuмent.

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    Re: Communion for Protestant Spouses? NOT
    « Reply #21 on: June 05, 2018, 10:20:10 PM »
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  • Bottom line is that the answer is that each diocesan bishop allow it but it's just not the right time ("opportune") to issue a formal docuмent.
    Bottom line the answer is still "no"

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    Re: Communion for Protestant Spouses? NOT
    « Reply #22 on: June 06, 2018, 05:24:16 AM »
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  • Bottom line the answer is still "no"
    You didn't read the docuмent.  The answer is not, "no".  The answer is, each bishop can do what he wants and it's not the right time to issue a docuмent giving blanket approval.