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Offline kamalayka

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« on: October 18, 2009, 12:19:17 AM »
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  • Hi.

    I am not saying that I am holy. I am very, very far from it!

    However, I couldn't help but notice that, while reading posts made by forum members (particularly in the "Crisis in the Church" section), there is a lot of judging going on.

    For example, someone referred to Fr. Cutie as a scuм (the priest in the news who had an affair).  Another said he should be worried about his salvation.

    Instead of condemning him for having committing sin (something we ALL do), maybe we should pray for him.

    If I am not mistaken, Christ died for him, too!




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    There is a difference between judging actions and judging people. We are able to judge whether or not a particular action is a sin. HOWEVER, if we accuse the person committing the sin of guilt, we are judging.

    We do not know if a person is actually guilty of a sin, because we don't know if a person consented completely with their will.

    If we see someone steal money from a store, we can say the act itself is a sin.
    But, if we accuse them of being guilty of sin, we are judging them. (For all we know, that thief's child may be held at gunpoint by a drug-addict outside, demanding the parent to steal money. In that situation, the person with the gun would be guilty of stealing, not the person who was forced against their will.)

    Sin is an act of the will.


    My point is that maybe we should remove the plank from our own eye, in order that we may clearly see to remove the speck from our brother's eye!

    Or, "Whoever is without sin, let him throw the first stone."



    Instead of beating up a fellow sinner, we should pray that the person may be forgiven!


    I am done with my rant now.

    Satan wants this:   :heretic:

    JESUS CHRIST want this:   :pray:


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    « Reply #1 on: October 18, 2009, 03:44:34 AM »
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    My point is that maybe we should remove the plank from our own eye, in order that we may clearly see to remove the speck from our brother's eye!


    Don't you have to judge to do that?

    Yes.  And you should.


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    « Reply #2 on: October 18, 2009, 05:48:54 PM »
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    Instead of beating up a fellow sinner, we should pray that the person may be forgiven!


    Maybe there is someone with a gun to the head of the man who types the things you do not like?  :wink:

    Yes, your point is valid, but it is also easily misunderstood and often twisted in order to browbeat men into silence in the face of evil.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #3 on: October 18, 2009, 09:25:41 PM »
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  • Indeed.  It becomes the heresy of non-judgmentalism; ie: "we never have the right to admonish anyone"

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    « Reply #4 on: October 18, 2009, 10:02:31 PM »
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    For example, someone referred to Fr. Cutie as a scuм (the priest in the news who had an affair).


    Fr. Cutie was not an orthodox or traditional Catholic priest to begin with. Before his official apostasy, he was engaging in all sorts of ecuмenical activity in Miami.
    Pray for me, always.