Author Topic: CNN and The V2 'Church'. (Read 1107 times)

roscoe · « **on:** March 19, 2010, 08:24:39 PM »

Without explaining to their readers that the popes beg w/ John XXIII(23) are anti-popes and that the v2 'church' is no Church at all, CNN( and other MSM) have been going hog wild the last few days with stories about pedophiles in the clergy.

Would anyone who accepts these popes care to comment? Are these stories BS or is there another explanation?

Can there possibly be such a thing as a True Pope who does nothing about this? (NO)

:heretic: :alcohol:

:sheep: :confused1: :detective: :good-shot:

btw-- none of the Beatles was ever accused of being a homo or a pedophile.

roscoe · « **Reply #1 on:** March 19, 2010, 08:34:24 PM »

Just a minor correction as John was once slandered as having been with Brian but the story is not true. At any rate there has never been an accusation of pedophilia against any of the Beatles. :judge:

Ladislaus · « **Reply #2 on:** March 20, 2010, 07:39:07 AM »

Can there be a true pope who does nothing about this? Of course. Strictly speaking the Holy Spirit does not force the Pope to do everything he should do for the good of the Church.

On the other hand, naturally speaking, it's hard to understand why they would do nothing if they're not actively trying to destroy the Church.

Yesterday Peℓσѕι got up and blasphemously invoked St. Joseph to help pass the abortion-care bill. And the Vatican sits idly by. Meanwhile, minutes do not pass before the Vatican scurries to dispatch Lombardi for a denunciation of Bishop Williamson or the excommunication of some Traditional Catholic for disobedience. All manner of heresy, blasphemy, and sacrilege is tolerated EXCEPT that of Traditional Catholicism.

After the Vatican II crisis, the Pope needs to exhume the remains of the V2 popes, have them sit in a chair to face trial, be excommunicated, and have their remains hurled into the Tiber.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #3 on:** March 20, 2010, 08:07:41 AM »

Chaput was at a Pro Life conference in Cleveland, and a layman got up to ask (rather tactfully) why the bishops haven't done more about abortion. Chaput pointed his finger at the audience and said it's not our fault but yours, because the bishops' job is only to safeguard the Faith. And a splendid job they've done of that too, with 80-90% of NO pew-sitters embracing one heresy or another ! And Chaput's considered to be the most ultra-orthodox US bishop.

I've seen outrage from NO lay Catholics on other message boards, after Peℓσѕι's blasphemous invocation of St. Joseph, perplexed over why the Vatican hasn't excommunicated her long ago. I've known more NO Catholics in just the small circles I hang out with who are outraged over this behavior than can be found in the entire NO hierarchy. In fact, the NO guy who was there and told me this story about Chaput was blustering near-sedevacantist rhetoric over it.

There was one Greek philosopher (was it Archimedes?) who, as the story goes, was walking around in broad daylight with a lantern. When asked what he was doing, he responded that he was going in search of an honest man. I feel like showing up at the next USCCCBSC-whatever meeting and holding a lantern in search of a bishop who still has Catholic faith.

Alexandria · « **Reply #4 on:** March 20, 2010, 12:22:46 PM »

I like that Archimedes story. That's the point I'm at. We're surrounded by lies and liars and by people who aren't even aware that they are lying to themselves.

Belloc · « **Reply #5 on:** March 24, 2010, 03:18:22 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

Chaput was at a Pro Life conference in Cleveland, and a layman got up to ask (rather tactfully) why the bishops haven't done more about abortion. Chaput pointed his finger at the audience and said it's not our fault but yours, because the bishops' job is only to safeguard the Faith. And a splendid job they've done of that too, with 80-90% of NO pew-sitters embracing one heresy or another ! And Chaput's considered to be the most ultra-orthodox US bishop.

I've seen outrage from NO lay Catholics on other message boards, after Peℓσѕι's blasphemous invocation of St. Joseph, perplexed over why the Vatican hasn't excommunicated her long ago. I've known more NO Catholics in just the small circles I hang out with who are outraged over this behavior than can be found in the entire NO hierarchy. In fact, the NO guy who was there and told me this story about Chaput was blustering near-sedevacantist rhetoric over it.

There was one Greek philosopher (was it Archimedes?) who, as the story goes, was walking around in broad daylight with a lantern. When asked what he was doing, he responded that he was going in search of an honest man. I feel like showing up at the next USCCCBSC-whatever meeting and holding a lantern in search of a bishop who still has Catholic faith.

know a doctor that some time ago, gently wrote a email to Chaput asking whay a pro-abort Catholic politician got a Mass in his honor when elected, Chaput fired back a "how dare you judge" and "repent, you are at fault" guilt trip....got the email somwhere I think, something they learn in seminary, how to twist things and blame you......Chaput, perfect poster boy for "Conservative"Catholics....

Alexandria · « **Reply #6 on:** March 24, 2010, 03:29:28 PM »

I think it's a Saul Alinsky technique, and it's all over. Although the conciliar church prelates, priests and religious seem to excell in it...so does the CAF crowd. I've heard them use it many times on their show Un-"Catholic Answers."

roscoe · « **Reply #7 on:** March 25, 2010, 12:25:11 AM »

Ladislaus is of two minds when he says ' of course' a true pope could do nothing in response to the v2 scandal-- he then speculates as to 'on the other hand'. If 'of course" is to be believed then there is no 'on the other hand'.

:confused1:

Ladislaus · « **Reply #8 on:** March 25, 2010, 06:36:32 AM »

Quote from: roscoe

Ladislaus is of two minds when he says ' of course' a true pope could do nothing in response to the v2 scandal-- he then speculates as to 'on the other hand'. If 'of course" is to be believed then there is no 'on the other hand'.

:confused1:

THEORETICALLY it's possible, since the Holy Spirit doesn't force a pope to do everything he should do to protect the faith. REALISTICLY, or naturally speaking (as I put it above), it's hard to imagine that a true pope would let this go on.

St. Pius X himself used the phrase "naturally speaking"--as in "Naturally speaking, the Church is finished."

Belloc · « **Reply #9 on:** March 25, 2010, 07:18:23 AM »

Quote from: Alexandria

I think it's a Saul Alinsky technique, and it's all over. Although the conciliar church prelates, priests and religious seem to excell in it...so does the CAF crowd. I've heard them use it many times on their show Un-"Catholic Answers."

will have to look into this technique you mention....but yes, they automatically switch and say that it is your fault and something is wrong with you....interesting, since the post V2 Church is all about "openess" and being filled with the spirit, love, peace,etc.....a thin veener of smiles hides nefariousness....

Alexandria · « **Reply #10 on:** March 25, 2010, 12:13:18 PM »

You've got that right, Belloc. Sometimes the old song "Smiling Faces" (you may be too young to remember it) goes through my head.

Author Topic: CNN and The V2 &#039;Church&#039;. (Read 1107 times)

Author Topic: CNN and The V2 'Church'. (Read 1107 times)