I saw this video a few moments ago:



At about the 2:36 mark, it states:

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For Eastern Orthodox, we advise all priests to contact Sedevacantist Roman Catholic Church (at http://www.cmri.org) to coordinate further actions for elections of a new pope for One, Holy, Orthodox, Catholic Church.

So, is the CMRI aware of this? And if so, are they really behind this?

 :surprised: :surprised: :surprised:

If it somehow happened, their Pope wouldn't be validly elected. He'd have to be ordained for starters, and even if he already was, a Pope cannot be elected by lay-people. People who think they have to elect their own Pope to end the Crisis are going to an extreme and aren't thinking logically. How many people do you really think are going to follow somebody like that? I know I wouldn't, even if I were a sede.

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If it somehow happened, their Pope wouldn't be validly elected. He'd have to be ordained for starters, and even if he already was, a Pope cannot be elected by lay-people. People who think they have to elect their own Pope to end the Crisis are going to an extreme and aren't thinking logically. How many people do you really think are going to follow somebody like that? I know I wouldn't, even if I were a sede.

I agree with you, but the CMRI is no ordinary "group." They are a pretty big sedevacantist group; this isn't like the Bawden guy who was elected "pope" by his family members.

I still have questions as to whether or not they are, in fact, doing this. If they are doing this, however, they're going to attract a lot of attention. I'm hoping Myrna weighs in on this since (I believe) she is affiliated with the CMRI.

Try this first:

CMRI.org

It is possible for a lawful election to take place in our times.  If this were to happen, Catholics would need to organize the last lawfully appointed bishops to hold a Council.  Also, all lawfully appointed Roman Clergy would also need to be invited to the Council.  If this Council were to be held, and a declaration of Sede Vacante were made, and if a new Pope were elected, this would be a lawful election.  

We may speculate that some may not accept such an election, but that is irrelevant, the election would be legal and binding.  If only the SSPX would embrace this as well, and help to organize the bishops and the Roman Clergy, the formation of the Council could happen far more quickly.

I do not know if CMRI is working on this, but if any Catholic has it in their power to advance a lawful Council of bishops and members of the Roman Clergy, they should use their station in life to help to assist this cause.  

The hour is late, the Church has been without a pope for about 50 years.  The conciliar church has left us a barren wasteland of Catholics losing their Faith and morals.  The remaining Catholics themselves are divided amongst themselves.  The time has come for Catholics to fight for the Church we love, pray for a Pope, and pray for those few left on Earth who hold the lawful power to hold a Council and elect a Pope.

I would urge everyone on this forum to St Robert Bellarmine and other theologians of how an election could be held if all the Cardinals were dead.  

http://strobertbellarmine.net/bellarm2.html

Also read this whole thread from the Bellarmine Forums:
http://www.strobertbellarmine.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=13&start=0

It's the only logical thing to do.

Nonsense.

Hobbledoy said:

By the way, as much as I personally admire the CMRI, I cringe at having to read that their are categorically equated to the "Sedevacantist Roman Catholic Church." Such wording is imprudent and can lead to serious misunderstandings.

Fear not, this is a laywoman, new to sedevacantism, who is very passionate ( to put it mildly, she is a nuclear bomb of energy ) and whose wording, due to her foreign origins, is sometimes very confusing.  

Perhaps some of her ideas are wrong as well, but it's hard to tell where her imperfect English ends and her ideas begin.  For instance, she used to be Orthodox, and she calls herself a Roman Orthodox Catholic with Orthodox capitalized... For a while I was worried she was trying to suggest that the Orthodox church was also a true church, but after grilling her a little, realized that wasn't the case.

There are definitely problems with her approach, but I'll take it to the priest before talking about it here.  I was over-the-top at one time myself.  That seems to come along with realizing the truth about Vatican II and just how deep the rot really goes.  There are many pitfalls of pride for sedes, and it scares me to see this woman teetering on the brink.  I remember feeling like I was chosen and this woman reminds me of myself, let's put it that way.
 

 

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It's the only logical thing to do.

Nonsense.

Why?  

Because recognizing that an alleged Pope is a notorious heretic does not impose any obligation except to admit that the Pope has lost his office.  A body with the proper authority to elect a Pope will eventually be constituted.  Until then the individual sede, whether lay, priest or bishop, has no obligation to do what he has no clear means of doing.

It's not logical, it's just nonsense to say that sede groups are obligated to elect a new Pope when there is no clear authority existing to do so.  It makes far more sense to say that the SSPX is obligated to submit to Benedict XVI (if Benedict XVI is the Pope).