Author Topic: CM David Landry - every validly ordained priest here in the United States (Read 9189 times)

Roman Catholic · « **on:** August 29, 2010, 06:48:53 AM »

David,

You link to a website that states the following:

"Nowhere today can Catholics go to Mass and Confession in the United States, because nowhere in the United States is there a Catholic priest, a man who is both validly ordained and who holds the Catholic Faith, whole and inviolate. Sadly, every validly ordained priest here in the United States has sold his soul to the devil"

Do you hold the above position? Every validly ordained priest in the United States has sold his soul to the devil?

PS. Who is responsible for that website?

Wessex · « **Reply #1 on:** August 29, 2010, 09:10:57 AM »

To the extent that I am highly unlikely to enter the portals of a diocesan church for the rest of my life, that firm decision of mine surely has a bearing on everything about the wholesale invalidity of the new religion. I do not as a consequence waste my time wrestling with things like 'papal authority', canon law and the absurdity of partial communion invented by the SSPX. I opt for the simple life.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #2 on:** August 29, 2010, 10:18:57 AM »

"Sadly, every validly ordained priest here in the United States has sold his soul to the devil"

I would never pay attention to anyone who believes they can judge another so harshly as the statement above.

Yes, we all make judgements daily about actions and statements of one another, but to judge a persons soul, that belongs only to God.

For this reason alone, it would be good to pay no attention to this person. May God have mercy on him.

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #3 on:** August 29, 2010, 10:54:07 AM »

Quote from: Wessex

To the extent that I am highly unlikely to enter the portals of a diocesan church for the rest of my life, that firm decision of mine surely has a bearing on everything about the wholesale invalidity of the new religion. I do not as a consequence waste my time wrestling with things like 'papal authority', canon law and the absurdity of partial communion invented by the SSPX. I opt for the simple life.

But the text from David's link is not just about diocesan priests (although they would be included in the accusation). It is about EVERY Catholic priest in the United States.

Obviously the accusation is not limited to priests in the United States.

Maybe the author thinks there is a priest or maybe even 3 in the whole world who have not sold their souls to the Satan.

It states:

"Nowhere today can Catholics go to Mass and Confession in the United States, because nowhere in the United States is there a Catholic priest, a man who is both validly ordained and who holds the Catholic Faith, whole and inviolate. Sadly, every validly ordained priest here in the United States has sold his soul to the devil"

Emerentiana · « **Reply #4 on:** August 29, 2010, 11:52:55 AM »

Quote from: Roman Catholic

Quote from: Wessex
To the extent that I am highly unlikely to enter the portals of a diocesan church for the rest of my life, that firm decision of mine surely has a bearing on everything about the wholesale invalidity of the new religion. I do not as a consequence waste my time wrestling with things like 'papal authority', canon law and the absurdity of partial communion invented by the SSPX. I opt for the simple life.

But the text from David's link is not just about diocesan priests (although they would be included in the accusation). It is about EVERY Catholic priest in the United States.

Obviously the accusation is not limited to priests in the United States.

Maybe the author thinks there is a priest or maybe even 3 in the whole world who have not sold their souls to the Satan.

It states:

"Nowhere today can Catholics go to Mass and Confession in the United States, because nowhere in the United States is there a Catholic priest, a man who is both validly ordained and who holds the Catholic Faith, whole and inviolate. Sadly, every validly ordained priest here in the United States has sold his soul to the devil"

This is the philosophy of "home aloners", of which Landry is one. Its a sin against the Holy Ghost, and the doctrine of the indefectability of the church.

What a terrible sin of calumny to level at the many good holy priests that spend hours traveling around the country to give the sacraments to the faithful! I maintain that this Landry is a very dangerous man, and should not be on this forum!

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #5 on:** August 29, 2010, 06:08:59 PM »

Something that only makes his viewpoints more heretical and insane. And notice how CM has yet to comment on this. He's probably scared to admit he literally holds this position.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #6 on:** August 29, 2010, 07:50:58 PM »

Now I know why I don't read his blog.

How could you CM, say that, or agree to it?

"sold out to the devil" ???!!!!

Not every priest will save his soul, but to say every priest. . . why only America, what about Canada too

In fact why are you always picking on America? You must be related to Belloc.

CM · « **Reply #7 on:** August 29, 2010, 08:02:06 PM »

Excuse me, but that is not my quotation. However, I do not know of any priest who has not sold out to heresy or schism. That is not to say that there are none who are licit, but I do not know of them.

"Picking on America"? Are you joking?

Why did Jesus "Pick on Corozain and Bethsaida"?

Give me a break.

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #8 on:** August 29, 2010, 09:05:13 PM »

Quote from: CM

Excuse me, but that is not my quotation. However, I do not know of any priest who has not sold out to heresy or schism. That is not to say that there are none who are licit, but I do not know of them.

So you are saying that you don't agree entirely with the what the author wrote in that piece?

Do you think all those priests whom you think have succuмbed to heresy or schism have literally sold their souls to the devil?

Or is that little gem just some lamentable inflammatory hyperbole and counter-productive rhetoric?

You only link to a couple sites, so you would know:

Who is responsible for that website? Who authored the article?

CM · « **Reply #9 on:** August 29, 2010, 09:08:37 PM »

Why the interest? It's obvious that he means only those priests he is aware of. He is obviously not claiming omniscience. The rest of your questions are not for me, but for him. Email him.

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #10 on:** August 29, 2010, 09:25:19 PM »

Quote from: CM

Why the interest? It's obvious that he means only those priests he is aware of. He is obviously not claiming omniscience. The rest of your questions are not for me, but for him. Email him.

You ask why the interest? I am interested in the issues of the day and many other things.

When you put up a website and promote it, asking people to go there and learn from it or offer corrections, you have to be prepared to provide decent answer to reasonable questions. Don't you think?

Why did you ignore this question?...

Do you think all those priests whom you think have succuмbed to heresy or schism have literally sold their souls to the devil?

Or do YOU think that is lamentable inflammatory hyperbole and counter-productive rhetoric?

Do you link to sites that contain material that you do not agree with about issues of utmost importance which could be soul destroying if not correct?

CM · « **Reply #11 on:** August 29, 2010, 09:34:52 PM »

Would I put it that way personally, is that your question?

If St. Polycarp would tell Marcion that he recognizes him as the firstborn of satan, then I see no problem with asserting that heretics and schismatics have sold their souls to the devil; They can only be redeemed through the true faith.

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Do you link to sites that contain material that you do not agree with about issues of utmost importance which could be soul destroying if not correct?

As you have seen above, I agree with the position he holds, with consideration that neither he nor I have claimed omniscience.

Roman Catholic · « **Reply #12 on:** August 29, 2010, 09:48:00 PM »

Quote from: CM

Would I put it that way personally, is that your question?

If St. Polycarp would tell Marcion that he recognizes him as the firstborn of satan, then I see no problem with asserting that heretics and schismatics have sold their souls to the devil; They can only be redeemed through the true faith.

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Do you link to sites that contain material that you do not agree with about issues of utmost importance which could be soul destroying if not correct?

As you have seen above, I agree with the position he holds, with consideration that neither he nor I have claimed omniscience.

You assert that you are not omniscient.

But you are stating something as a FACT that could lead souls to hell if you are wrong.

Those are VERY BIG and VERY BOLD claims to make on thw www.

What if you are wrong?

Do you know of ANY priests in the world whom you think are not guilty of being heretics and schismatics that have sold their souls to the devil?

Or do you think there may be none left at all?

CM · « **Reply #13 on:** August 29, 2010, 09:50:53 PM »

Quote from: Roman Catholic

But you are stating something as a FACT that could lead souls to hell if you are wrong.

It's a fact that I don't know of any. That is what I have said and this suffices to answer your post, which is none other than your own rhetoric and the same question over and over.

CM · « **Reply #14 on:** August 29, 2010, 09:52:12 PM »

Quote from: Roman Catholic

But the text from David's link is not just about diocesan priests (although they would be included in the accusation). It is about EVERY Catholic priest in the United States.

No. Every heretical and schismatical priest, which are the only ones I have ever come across.