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Cloaks and Daggers - II
« Reply #95 on: March 25, 2012, 09:31:08 PM »
Quote from: Cupertino
Quote from: Elizabeth
Thanks for the vulgar priestly imagery, SJB


I know, Elizabeth, you are being sarcastic about SJB's comment.

I will put it more bluntly: DIS-GUST-ING, and impious.

Apparently insidebaseball has no objection. So sorry for him.





Yes, I meant that it is completely unnecessary to describe the SSPV's denial of Communion to people they don't like as a xxxxing contest

 It is disgusting, but it trivialises something very grave.  Like Alinsky, he uses shocking words to distract from the point.  He has spent years accusing Fr. Cekada of serious offenses, but when someone points out what Cekada's enemy does, he uses a shocking phrase to turn the focus away from the facts.  

And Insidebaseball, why do you give your pal SJB a pass for his constant name-calling?  Isn't that stirring the pot?  


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« Reply #96 on: March 26, 2012, 07:37:58 AM »
Quote from: Elizabeth
Yes, I meant that it is completely unnecessary to describe the SSPV's denial of Communion to people they don't like as a xxxxing contes


Yes, I think it's wrong to refuse communion to those Catholics who attend a "Thuc-line" Mass. I have always said that and you know it, Eliz. When you were a IC cheerleader you were critical of me because I held that opinion.

You make the accusation that the "Thuc" issued is only used against those the IC clergy doesn't like. Is this true?

Anyway, I do also believe much of the animosity between SGG and IC is due to "a contest of wills or egos."



Cloaks and Daggers - II
« Reply #97 on: March 26, 2012, 09:12:55 AM »
Quote from: SJB


Yes, I think it's wrong to refuse communion to those Catholics who attend a "Thuc-line" Mass. I have always said that and you know it, Eliz. When you were a IC cheerleader you were critical of me because I held that opinion.

You make the accusation that the "Thuc" issued is only used against those the IC clergy doesn't like. Is this true?





Sorry SJB-I stated that I needed to study the Thuc issue.  As it turned out, asking innocent questions proved to be a terrible idea  :laugh1: but who could have imagined?   I'm from DC, where asking questions is socially acceptable.

  Before moving to Ohio it never entered my mind that traditional clergy would issue a prohibition against taking sacraments from another chapel, lest one's children be expelled from their school, without a perfectly HONEST reason.   Our experience with traditional clergy before that time had been always edifying and pure.

We loved our priests and trusted them...we had no inkling of the Catholic subculture extant in the SW Ohio region.  

But please be accurate in what you describe as my accusation.  You slipped in the word only, which is dishonest.

  Bernie Brueggemann, a major Thuc line supporter had his funeral at SSPV.  So, that is one example of the random enforcement of the [man-made] rules.  I know first-hand other families at the school who received at SGG without expulsion.  

Mario Derksen has done a very professional job of debunking the SSPV anti- Thuc business.  


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« Reply #98 on: March 26, 2012, 10:09:34 AM »
Quote from: Elizabeth
But please be accurate in what you describe as my accusation.  You slipped in the word only, which is dishonest.


Sorry, I should have said ALSO use the Thuc issue against those they don't like. If this is true, then it's not a principled stance at all.

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« Reply #99 on: March 26, 2012, 10:14:10 AM »
Quote from: SJB
Anyway, I do also believe much of the animosity between SGG and IC is due to "a contest of wills or egos."


Eliz, I notice you didn't comment on this statement. Do you agree with it or not?