Author Topic: Classic Christianity (Read 2609 times)

Classiccom · « **on:** July 26, 2009, 04:14:37 PM »

This Ode thread was pretty odious. Fr. Cekada deserves an apology. I just read his Motu letter from last year. Here is one of the few peple on the planet who had the guts to tell the truth.

http://www.dailycatholic.org/issue/09Jul/jul7.htm

Also the great moaner accused me of smoking crack. (bad joke)

Also I keep hearing the word "cult" being applied to SGG.There might be some truth to that but I believe the real cult feel originates with the Club Infallible theology that was enshrined in 1870. That alone causes schizophrenia. Just like the wizard of Oz, when you elevate the papal office to that of an infallible wizard, you are lowering the status of all Christians.

These words from the Ode thead are haunting

"Letting go and moving on does not necessarily equate with leaving the wolves to ravage the flock at will. Doing the former in a certain way ENABLES the latter to continue unabated. The wolves thrive because the sheepdogs do not bark. "

Good question - wrong situation. Where are the sheepdogs when Pope Benedict recently said it was no longer necessary to preach Jesus to the Jєωs ? For the last 139 years Catholics have been beaten down with this abuse of power. IF you listen to the protestants, it has been going on a lot longer than that.

Anyway I just wish the sheepdogs would go after the known mass murderers of the faith (Pope Benedict), rather than someone who may have bruised the head of someone's ego.

CM · « **Reply #1 on:** July 26, 2009, 08:11:33 PM »

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Also I keep hearing the word "cult" being applied to SGG.There might be some truth to that but I believe the real cult feel originates with the Club Infallible theology that was enshrined in 1870. That alone causes schizophrenia. Just like the wizard of Oz, when you elevate the papal office to that of an infallible wizard, you are lowering the status of all Christians.

When you deny the infallibility of the teaching authority of the pope, you deny God's promise that the Holy Ghost would be given to the Church and would teach all truth.

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IF you listen to the protestants, it has been going on a lot longer than that.

If you listen to the Protestants, you will end up with a lot of contradictory theology, since they reject the supreme authority of the Vicar of Jesus Christ, who was promised an unfailing faith by the same Sovereign Lord, and many of them believe that ALL CHRISTIANS (which they are in fact not) are infallibly guided by God the Holy Ghost. Hmmm.. do you believe this?

Roscoe, I have found your shill.

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Anyway I just wish the sheepdogs would go after the known mass murderers of the faith (Pope Benedict), rather than someone who may have bruised the head of someone's ego.

Pope Benedict NEVER taught that it was not necessary to preach Jesus Christ and the Gospel to Jєωs. And why do you mention him anyway, since he died in 1758?

Or did you mean Antipope Benedict?

Classiccom · « **Reply #2 on:** July 26, 2009, 09:49:24 PM »

Q- Pope Benedict NEVER taught that it was not necessary to preach Jesus Christ and the Gospel to Jєωs. And why do you mention him anyway, since he died in 1758?

Or did you mean Antipope Benedict?

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I rest my case. Club Infallible theology makes a perfect Satanic Ptomken Church facade. The Word of God in scripture is the standard used in judgment, not Club Infallible theology de jour. You can't fight falsehood with falsehood. Let no man or angel from heaven deceive you.

Lets face the music. The Church and the world are under judgment. Club Infallible promotes a denial of this reality in both the traditionalists and liberal apostates.

CM · « **Reply #3 on:** July 26, 2009, 10:03:26 PM »

Oh, Scripture is infallible, but the pope isn't?

How do you know what books belong in Scripture, Mr. Protestant heretic? The pope defined them, but if he is fallible, then how can you be sure the Bible you are reading contains the word of God or not?

Classiccom · « **Reply #4 on:** July 27, 2009, 07:00:07 AM »

Q - Oh, Scripture is infallible, but the pope isn't?

How do you know what books belong in Scripture, Mr. Protestant heretic? The pope defined them, but if he is fallible, then how can you be sure the Bible you are reading contains the word of God or not?

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Club Infallible fruits:

Rabid hatrid of people who prefer the bible to validate church teachings. You really don't believe the grace of God can help an individual sort things out. This is anti-Christ.

Defacto superhuman powers of all things perceived as Papal.

Your version of the "catholic faith" requires me to ask you who is a valid pope? Who appointed you as gatekeeper?

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I believe a council of Catholic Bishops with a pope determined which books were to part of the Bible. I use Dewey Rheims - all 72 books FYI.

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trad123 · « **Reply #5 on:** July 27, 2009, 07:21:15 AM »

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Rabid hatrid of people who prefer the bible to validate church teachings. You really don't believe the grace of God can help an individual sort things out. This is anti-Christ.

"People who prefer the bible to validate church teachings" = Protestantism = Bible is the sole rule of Faith

Totally repudiating Tradition with a capital T.

CM · « **Reply #6 on:** July 27, 2009, 07:33:56 AM »

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I believe a council of Catholic Bishops with a pope determined which books were to part of the Bible. I use Dewey Rheims - all 72 books FYI.

The Douay Rheims Bible has 73 books. Which one do you reject?

trad123 · « **Reply #7 on:** July 27, 2009, 07:42:28 AM »

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Where are the sheepdogs when Pope Benedict recently said it was no longer necessary to preach Jesus to the Jєωs ? For the last 139 years Catholics have been beaten down with this abuse of power. IF you listen to the protestants, it has been going on a lot longer than that.

It's not necessary to preach Jesus to the Jєωs? Heresy. Benedict XVI is in heresy. Heresy cuts a person off from the Church, a branch cut off from the Tree. Benedict XVI is not Catholic. He is not pope. He cannot be head of something which he is not even a member of, the Catholic Church.

Classiccom · « **Reply #8 on:** July 27, 2009, 07:50:06 AM »

OK, you got that one thing right. That's a start.

Thanks

Matthew 23-24

Blind guides, who strain out a gnat, and swallow a camel.

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Chill out dude, I know it's a strain being a gatekeeper.

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Elizabeth · « **Reply #9 on:** July 27, 2009, 08:25:59 AM »

Classicom, I assume you have not had a chance to read the person with the "guts" to tell the "truth" about Terri Schiavo, and those who opposed her deliberate death by starvation.

Do you assist at SSPX masses? Well, the "truth" is that you are a grave sinner-in fact they'll even forbid you to enter the property to listen to Dr. Droleskey speak. Because they have recently discovered the "truth" of mentioning N. our pope at the Mass.

Oh, but wait, a few years ago they had the guts to issue the "truth" about expelling and excommunicating other Catholics (SSPV controversy). I thought Truth was always Truth.

How fortunate for you that you have never witnessed anything that needed to be brought to the chain of command at a school or parish. It would be easy enough to minimise serious matter as "ego bruising".

If it is a mere matter of "ego bruising" wouldn'y you think that the priest with "the guts to tell the truth" might be courageous enough to remain calm in the face of a simple disagreement? Or maybe have enough guts to get to the bottom of things without smearing a parishoner?

Elizabeth · « **Reply #10 on:** July 27, 2009, 08:42:43 AM »

And Classicom, I hope you won't take offense, because I really mean well-but you have described a priest as

"one of the few people on the planet with the guts to tell the truth"

In my opinion, this might be why some people describe SGG as a "cult". (Not that I can possibly find fault in a person who loves his priest!)

But how does one know that this degree of trust is prudent?

Classiccom · « **Reply #11 on:** July 27, 2009, 08:52:49 AM »

Classicom, I assume you have not had a chance to read the person with the "guts" to tell the "truth" about Terri Schiavo, and those who opposed her deliberate death by starvation.
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If you have a webpage reference , I will read it.

Even George Bush made a heroic statment concening Schiavo. Bush said that we as a society should have concern for the weakest members and to defend life.

George W. Bush Discusses Terri Schiavo Video Date:

Elizabeth · « **Reply #12 on:** July 27, 2009, 09:27:26 AM »

Hi ClassicS! I had a the info on another thread but it got xxx'd out.

Let me ask Chant about it. It is very worthwhile, and docuмents the initial letters to the Remnant, the articles by Dr. Gebel and the replies to Dr. Gebel and commentary by Fr. Jenkins.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #13 on:** July 27, 2009, 09:32:23 AM »

OK, I pm'd Matthew and am waiting. It also has the very important Moral Theology relevant to this type of case.

It's a slam-dunk :wine-drinking:

Elizabeth · « **Reply #14 on:** July 27, 2009, 05:36:17 PM »

The website is WFTS Radio. It has a section called News and Photos. You will see a heading of the Death of Theresa Marie Schidler. Very small site, very easy to find.

Enjoy!

For starters, Terri's estranged husband (who didn't call 911 for hours after he "found" his wife in a serious condition) hired Mark Felos, a Euthanasia lawyer.

It was all about euthanasia from the get-go.

Michael Schiavo, who had fathered two illegitimate children by another woman by the time he succeeded in having her starved to death (even though she could swallow) Oh never mind, there is a ton of excellant information from sound Catholic sources.

I look forward to hearing what you have to say after reading the wfts articles.