Author Topic: Circuмvent Francis: Rosary Crusade to ask BVM to bind a demon (Read 1345 times)

Gerard from FE · « **on:** June 27, 2016, 07:39:18 PM »

I'm passing this idea around on a few forums and Catholic sites. I'd like to get some opinions and if it has appeal to try and get some momentum going.

The Problem:

The literal "plague" of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity that is attacking people and families is reaching epic levels over the whole world, it is a font of error and compounding of sins and an attack ultimately on the Holy Trinity.

The status of the Catholic Church in facing this dilemma:

The weak and compliant and wickedly disoriented leadership of the Church is not going to be a solution nor even be helpful in their current state.

Trads are being on occasion adversely affected by losing charity by focusing too much on the sinners and their damnation and not much at all on their conversion and reclamation and salvation.

The Proposition:

Organize an effort with the aid of various clergy and traditional organizations (SSPX, Resistance, Sedes, FSSP, Remnant, Catholic Family News, CMTV, CMRI…anyone who wants to help) to initiate a new rosary crusade with the specific purpose of asking our Lady to bind the demon or demons of impurity called "Asmodeus" as referenced by many exorcists and the book of Tobit.

This is a very specific request to make of our Lady that would in my opinion be a devastating attack against the gates of Hell, which have been running the Church over for decades.

It circuмvents the problem of relying on Pope Francis and the bishops for any help.

It is well within the authority of the lay faithful of the Church Militant.

It moves the focus of the battle from our ground in which we (humans) are fighting amongst ourselves trying to make conversions and repentance while demons attack with utter impunity and set us against each other.

It renders criticism of it as victimizing "gαys" or "gαy bashing" null because it is directed against a specific demon and/or demonic class, those attacking the effort would have to acknowledge both the power and influence of the demonic as well as the power of our Lady's intercession.

"For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and power, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places."

Any thoughts?

Matto · « **Reply #1 on:** June 27, 2016, 08:17:20 PM »

This is an interesting request. I thought there were many thousands of demons. Would it make that much of a difference to bind just one? Wouldn't other demons just take his place?

TheRealMcCoy · « **Reply #2 on:** June 27, 2016, 09:43:17 PM »

It's my understanding from listening to conferences given by Fr Chad Ripperger that while each angel is unique multiple demons can function under a specific name which describes their particular temptation or sin. And binding a strong one can also in effect bind lesser ones at the same time. This one probably requires prayers and fasting. That what he teaches anyway.

Maybe our prayers are not accompanied by enough sacrifices???? :confused1:

Matto · « **Reply #3 on:** June 27, 2016, 09:48:07 PM »

Quote from: TheRealMcCoy

It's my understanding from listening to conferences given by Fr Chad Ripperger that while each angel is unique multiple demons can function under a specific name which describes their particular temptation or sin. And binding a strong one can also in effect bind lesser ones at the same time. This one probably requires prayers and fasting. That what he teaches anyway.

Maybe our prayers are not accompanied by enough sacrifices???? :confused1:

Father Chad Ripperger is an excorcist. I think the fact that exorcisms by Novus Ordo exorcists supposedly work is one of the strongest arguments in favor of the validity of the Novus Ordo ordinations. I mean if they were not real priests they would not be able to cast out demons.

Gerard from FE · « **Reply #4 on:** June 27, 2016, 10:22:17 PM »

I went through my various books on Exorcism and such and they all seem to agree that this bad guy is pretty prominent.

Fr. Ripperger named it as the one associated with male ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity.

He named two others for female ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, "Lilith" being one of them.

On another forum, I suggested August as a possible month to do it in. Spread the word around over July, start to prepare for some fasting if anyone is up for that. August is another month for our Lady, leading into the month for the Holy Angels in September. The East celebrates the martyrdom of St. John the Baptist in August and I read but haven't verified from a second source that he's the nemesis of this demon.)

Cantarella · « **Reply #5 on:** June 27, 2016, 11:23:34 PM »

I think this is a wonderful idea. I, for one, am beyond sick of this revolting sodomite filth, which must be coming straight from the deepest pit of Hell, not entirely by human means. I want to think that humans just cannot descend this LOW, (even below the level of beasts), on their very own. There must be a very active dark spiritual power fueling such dismal revolt against God.

This Asmodeous is a demon of high rank within the demonic hierarchy. It is one of the few devils mentioned by name in Holy Scripture. Remember Asmodeus was the murderous demon of Tobias's story who killed Sarah's seven husbands; but was defeated with the help of the Archangel Raphael?. Perhaps we should invoke fervorously the help of this particular angel for this intention.

Cantarella · « **Reply #6 on:** June 27, 2016, 11:25:56 PM »

Quote from: CE on Asmodeous

The name of the demon mentioned in the Book of Tobias (iii, 8). The name is most probably derived from the Hebrew root meaning "to destroy": so that the being would correspond to the demon called Abaddon, the Destroyer in the Apocalypse 9:11. The Book of Tobias relates that the virgin Sara, the kinswoman of Tobias, had been given successively to seven husbands; but they had all been slain on the night of the nuptials, before the consummation of the marriage. From this fact, a superstition had arisen that the demon loved the maiden and slew her husbands through jealousy.

In the Greek text of Tobias, it is stated that the younger Tobias himself was moved by this superstition. The inspired text in no way approves the superstition. God allowed the demon to slay these men because they entered marriage with unholy motives. The pious youth, Tobias, acting under the instructions of Raphael, takes Sara to wife, and Raphael expels the demon. The exemplary chastity and temperance of Tobias and Sara save them from the demon, and offer an example for mankind. In fact, the permission given by God to the demon in this history seems to have as a motive to chasten man's lust and sanctify marriage. The Rationalists have vainly endeavoured to set down this history as a Persian myth. For a full refutation of their theories, see Gutberlet, "Das

Cantarella · « **Reply #7 on:** June 27, 2016, 11:33:32 PM »

Our Lord speaking to St. Catherine of Siena:

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They [the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs] not only fail from resisting the weakness [of fallen human nature] .... but they do even worse when they commit the cursed sin against nature. Like the blind and stupid, having dimmed the light of their understanding, they do not recognize the disease and misery in which they find themselves. For this not only causes Me nausea, but is disgusting even to the devils themselves whom these depraved creatures have chosen as their lords.

For Me this sin against nature is so abominable that for it alone five cities were destroyed by virtue of the judgment of My Divine Justice, which could no longer bear their iniquity ....

It is disgusting to the devils not because evil displeases them or because they find pleasure in good, but rather because their nature is angelic and flees upon seeing such a repulsive sin being committed. For while certainly it is the devil that first strikes the sinner with the poisoned arrow of concupiscence, nonetheless when a man actually carries out such a sinful act, the devil goes away.

http://www.traditioninaction.org/religious/n010rp_ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ_%20St.%20Cath.Siena.htm

nctradcath · « **Reply #8 on:** June 28, 2016, 06:56:15 AM »

Quote from: Matto

Quote from: TheRealMcCoy
It's my understanding from listening to conferences given by Fr Chad Ripperger that while each angel is unique multiple demons can function under a specific name which describes their particular temptation or sin. And binding a strong one can also in effect bind lesser ones at the same time. This one probably requires prayers and fasting. That what he teaches anyway.

Maybe our prayers are not accompanied by enough sacrifices???? :confused1:

Father Chad Ripperger is an excorcist. I think the fact that exorcisms by Novus Ordo exorcists supposedly work is one of the strongest arguments in favor of the validity of the Novus Ordo ordinations. I mean if they were not real priests they would not be able to cast out demons.

Fr. Ripper her lost all credibility in my eyes when he related that the demons where really afraid of "St. JP2." I no longer watch his stuff.

Gerard from FE · « **Reply #9 on:** June 28, 2016, 01:18:54 PM »

Quote from: nctradcath

Fr. Ripper her lost all credibility in my eyes when he related that the demons where really afraid of "St. JP2." I no longer watch his stuff.

Info coming from exorcists can be hit or miss. If JPII is a saint, he may well be something demons don't like at all for any number of reasons. Or, a demon may lie about it in order to mislead the priest.

But in general, I try to check multiple sources for clarification before I give an intellectual assent to some claims.

A lot of times there is difference of opinion among exorcists about what choir angels or demons are from.

Raphael has been called an Archangel by some and a Seraphim by others. That's a big difference in the Angelic hierarchy and even the hierarchy isn't settled in any dogmatic way.