Author Topic: Check out this wreckovation - looks like a Prot church (Read 8589 times)

awkwardcustomer · « **Reply #70 on:** December 05, 2014, 04:52:29 AM »

andysloan said,

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It is true that Our Lady grants sight to sincere hearts. Unfortunately for you, Nadir and awkward customer and many other "traditionalists", you have not sincere hearts, but are conceited pharisees. Your "catholicism" is selfish and not selfless.

Therefore, you are denied the understanding of the Holy Ghost, who flees from your pride. So much so, that the message through the demon is from Our Lady, yet Nadir says "it verges on blasphemy".

Talk about pot calling the kettle black. What is it that inspires you to come on a Traditionalist forum and insult people? Can you not see how ludicrous you sound, claiming the Catholic high ground while behaving the way you do? No... you can't, can you?

At least you've admitted your special devotion to John Paul II and that you love him very much. (Living Popes thread)

This explains a lot.

andysloan · « **Reply #71 on:** December 05, 2014, 08:45:16 AM »

To awkwardcustomer
"What is it that inspires you to come on a Traditionalist forum and insult people?"

And once again we see your deceit, which is indicative of why God has blinded you, even to the disgrace of sedevacantism.

For you deceitfully fashion just rebuke as insult.

Titus 1:9-11

Embracing that faithful word which is according to doctrine, that he may be able to exhort in sound doctrine, and to convince the gainsayers. For there are also many disobedient, vain talkers, and seducers: especially they who are of the circuмcision:

Who must be reproved, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, "

Matthew 23:26

"Thou blind Pharisee, first make clean the inside of the cup and of the dish, that the outside may become clean."

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #72 on:** December 05, 2014, 01:11:10 PM »

When I first entered St. Dominic's Church operated by the Dominicans Fathers and Brothers in
Washington, DC in 1965. The wreckovation was already accomplished at that early date
before the closing on Vatican II.
The altar was moved to the middle of the sanctuary. where the altar was was replaced
with chairs. The blessed sacrament was moved to the side altar. The painted frescoes
the decorated the walls were painted over. Is saw these frescoes in a book depicting
the history of the church.
Interesting note, this church was the Parish Church of General Sherman, of the
cινιℓ ωαr. Sherman's march to the sea also included his parish church many years
after his death.

JPaul · « **Reply #73 on:** December 05, 2014, 06:30:14 PM »

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J Paul said:

"If Our Lady has granted anything to sincere hearts, it is the discernment to see this alien abomination for the sacrilege that it is. "

It is true that Our Lady grants sight to sincere hearts. Unfortunately for you, Nadir and awkward customer and many other "traditionalists", you have not sincere hearts, but are conceited pharisees. Your "catholicism" is selfish and not selfless.

Therefore, you are denied the understanding of the Holy Ghost, who flees from your pride. So much so, that the message through the demon is from Our Lady, yet Nadir says "it verges on blasphemy".

Wisdom 8:4

"For it is she that teacheth the knowledge of God, and is the chooser of his works."

John 8:47

"He that is of God, heareth the words of God. Therefore you hear them not, because you are not of God."

St Father Montfort sums up your position.

"If anyone, therefore, wants to follow me thus abased and crucified, he must glory, as I did, only in the poverty, humiliations and sufferings of my Cross. "Let him renounce himself."

Excluded, then, from the company of the Friends of the Cross are those who take pride in their sufferings; the worldly-wise, the intellectuals and the sceptics who are attached to their own ideas and puffed up with their own talents. Away from you those endless talkers who make a great show but produce nothing but vanity. Away from you those so- called devout Catholics who in their pride display the self- sufficiency of proud Lucifer wherever they go, saying, "I am not like the rest of men;" who cannot endure being blamed without making some excuse, being attacked without answering back, being humbled without exalting themselves.

Be careful not to admit into your society those delicate and sensitive people who are afraid of the slightest pin- prick, who cry out and complain at the least pain, who know nothing of the hair-shirt, the discipline or other instruments of penance, and who mingle, with their fashionable devotions, a most refined fastidiousness and a most studied lack of mortification. You are the members of Christ, a wonderful honour indeed, but one which entails suffering. If the Head is crowned with thorns, can the members expect to be crowned with roses? If the Head is jeered at and covered with dust on the road to Calvary, can the members expect to be sprinkled with perfumes on a throne? If the Head has no pillow on which to rest, can the members expect to recline on feathers and down? That would be unthinkable!

No, no, my dear Companions of the Cross, do not deceive yourselves. Those Christians you see everywhere, fashionably dressed, fastidious in manner, full of importance and dignity, are not real disciples, real members of Christ crucified. To think they are would be an insult to our thorn-crowned Head and to the truth of the Gospel. How many so-called Christians imagine they are members of our Saviour when in reality they are his treacherous persecutors, for while they make the sign of the cross with their hand, in their hearts they are its enemies!" Letter to the Friends of the Cross

Your quotes do nothing but confirm what I have said, and do indeed condemn your own assertions.
You cannot enlist the truth to defend that which is false, and you cannot use the Queen of the Saints to justify the works of demons.

JPaul · « **Reply #74 on:** December 05, 2014, 06:49:10 PM »

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The truth is God has given us a diluted Mass for our times, but a mass it still is! The truth is to those to Whom God has given good understanding, if if wasn't for Our Lady we would hardly have been given that. Thanks be to her! Triumph and reign Holy Mother!

Here we learn that when you compromise, you will go to great lengths to justify every profanation the conciliar enemies of the Church can dish out, even if that means making blasphemous acts of sacrilege, good and lawful by convincing yourself that the acts of sacrilege and blasphemy to God's Holy Mass came from God Himself.

This is what you get when you spend your time in too many years of compromise.

Such as we see here, is not compromise, it is surrender.