Author Topic: changing the date of Easter? (Read 3559 times)

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #5 on:** January 17, 2016, 10:35:30 PM »

Don't forget, a fixed date for Easter means that there would be a fixed date for Ash Wednesday, and for all the other movable feasts that rely on the Easter date.

Maria Regina · « **Reply #6 on:** January 17, 2016, 11:47:39 PM »

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Anglicans in negotiation with Catholics to fix the date of Easter:

Justin Welby said he had been in discussions with Catholic representatives and the world’s other major Christian denominations to agree on a fixed day for Easter

Do you think this will happen? If so what will traditionalists do?

The date for Easter every year is determined by a simple formula of longstanding use, going back many hundreds of years. The obvious answer to this question is the same answer as other innovations that Newchurch has attempted to foist upon Catholics -- when in doubt, revert to the established norm that predates the innovation.

Roger Mahony tried to eliminate Ascension Thursday, moving the feast to the following Sunday. He dreamed up a new rule that makes Christmas optional if it falls on Saturday or Monday. One step at a time this agenda adds up to destruction of Tradition.

Traditional Catholics will always have Easter on the day determined by the moon's cycle and the first day of spring. It goes back to the time of Jesus when His Agony in the Garden was under a full moon, which is important for several reasons, not the least of which is that it renders impossible the stupid excuse that there was a total eclipse of the sun on Good Friday to explain the darkening of the sky at 3:00 pm. There cannot be any eclipse of the sun during a full moon because the moon is nowhere to be found in the sky during daylight.

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I heard about the Christmas option. Is it still in force among the Novus Ordo folk?

Nadir · « **Reply #7 on:** January 18, 2016, 03:34:02 AM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Don't forget, a fixed date for Easter means that there would be a fixed date for Ash Wednesday, and for all the other movable feasts that rely on the Easter date.

In which case you could even have Ash Sunday! :shocked: It would mean that Easter could occur on any day of the week. No more Holy Thursday or Good Friday either.

Throughout Australia, the new church already has Ascension Sunday, which could, of course, be celebrated on the Saturday vigil.

There go your novenas!

Maria Regina · « **Reply #8 on:** January 18, 2016, 03:42:14 AM »

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Quote from: Neil Obstat
Don't forget, a fixed date for Easter means that there would be a fixed date for Ash Wednesday, and for all the other movable feasts that rely on the Easter date.

In which case you could even have Ash Sunday! :shocked: It would mean that Easter could occur on any day of the week. No more Holy Thursday or Good Friday either.

Throughout Australia, the new church already has Ascension Sunday, which could, of course, be celebrated on the Saturday vigil. There go your novenas!

Nah.

The powers that be (world Ecuмenical leaders) are planning on fixing one Sunday in April to be Easter.

This would not work because Easter should always follow the Jєωιѕн Passover.

We must resist.

Guess there will be three different days on which to celebrate Easter or Pascha. We will be more divided that ever.

Gregorian Easter (Traditonal Catholics and Christians - current civil Easter)
Julian Old Calendar Pascha (Traditional Orthodox in Russia)
Anglican/Ecuмenical Patriarch/Roman Catholic Easter (New Civil Easter)

Maria Regina · « **Reply #9 on:** January 18, 2016, 03:52:43 AM »

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Quote from: Neil Obstat
Don't forget, a fixed date for Easter means that there would be a fixed date for Ash Wednesday, and for all the other movable feasts that rely on the Easter date.

In which case you could even have Ash Sunday! :shocked: It would mean that Easter could occur on any day of the week. No more Holy Thursday or Good Friday either.

Throughout Australia, the new church already has Ascension Sunday, which could, of course, be celebrated on the Saturday vigil. There go your novenas!

Perhaps you are right.

Ash Wednesday could become Ash Monday because the Ecuмenical Patriarch (EP) wants to celebrate Easter with the Novus Ordo Catholics.

And the Orthodox under the EP celebrate the first day of Lent on Clean Monday, which would become Ash Monday for Catholics, Anglicans, and Lutherans. However, Catholics by dispensation would dispense the ashes on the previous day in the afternoon making it Ash Sunday.

In fact, currently, some Catholic parishes dispense Ashes at the Tuesday afternoon Mass because the demand is so high and some cultures believe that not getting the ashes means that someone will die.