Anglicans in negotiation with Catholics to fix the date of Easter:

Justin Welby said he had been in discussions with Catholic representatives and the world’s other major Christian denominations to agree on a fixed day for Easter

Do you think this will happen?  If so what will traditionalists do?

Anglicans in negotiation with Catholics to fix the date of Easter:

Justin Welby said he had been in discussions with Catholic representatives and the world’s other major Christian denominations to agree on a fixed day for Easter

Do you think this will happen?  If so what will traditionalists do?

The date for Easter every year is determined by a simple formula of longstanding use, going back many hundreds of years.  The obvious answer to this question is the same answer as other innovations that Newchurch has attempted to foist upon Catholics -- when in doubt, revert to the established norm that predates the innovation.

Roger Mahony tried to eliminate Ascension Thursday, moving the feast to the following Sunday.  He dreamed up a new rule that makes Christmas optional if it falls on Saturday or Monday.  One step at a time this agenda adds up to destruction of Tradition.  

Traditional Catholics will always have Easter on the day determined by the moon's cycle and the first day of spring.  It goes back to the time of Jesus when His Agony in the Garden was under a full moon, which is important for several reasons, not the least of which is that it renders impossible the stupid excuse that there was a total eclipse of the sun on Good Friday to explain the darkening of the sky at 3:00 pm.  There cannot be any eclipse of the sun during a full moon because the moon is nowhere to be found in the sky during daylight.

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Since the NO did transfer Ascension Thursday to "Sunday", I have no doubt they would not hesitate to pick a fixed date for Easter.  I just wonder what R&R groups will do, will they go along or will this prevent them from rejoining the NO?  I suppose only time will tell.

Well, it's a good question, I suppose, since a lot of trads use the updated 1962 missal and others accept the first wave of changes (initiated by Annibale Bugnini) that happened before Pius XII died, and still others say that the first version of the Novus Ordo in Latin, 1970, is okay since it had only one Eucharistic Prayer (instead of 4).

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Quote from: Marlelar

Anglicans in negotiation with Catholics to fix the date of Easter:

Justin Welby said he had been in discussions with Catholic representatives and the world’s other major Christian denominations to agree on a fixed day for Easter

Do you think this will happen?  If so what will traditionalists do?

The date for Easter every year is determined by a simple formula of longstanding use, going back many hundreds of years.  The obvious answer to this question is the same answer as other innovations that Newchurch has attempted to foist upon Catholics -- when in doubt, revert to the established norm that predates the innovation.

Roger Mahony tried to eliminate Ascension Thursday, moving the feast to the following Sunday.  He dreamed up a new rule that makes Christmas optional if it falls on Saturday or Monday.  One step at a time this agenda adds up to destruction of Tradition.  

Traditional Catholics will always have Easter on the day determined by the moon's cycle and the first day of spring.  It goes back to the time of Jesus when His Agony in the Garden was under a full moon, which is important for several reasons, not the least of which is that it renders impossible the stupid excuse that there was a total eclipse of the sun on Good Friday to explain the darkening of the sky at 3:00 pm.  There cannot be any eclipse of the sun during a full moon because the moon is nowhere to be found in the sky during daylight.

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I heard about the Christmas option. Is it still in force among the Novus Ordo folk?

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Don't forget, a fixed date for Easter means that there would be a fixed date for Ash Wednesday, and for all the other movable feasts that rely on the Easter date.

In which case you could even have Ash Sunday!  :shocked: It would mean that Easter could occur on any day of the week. No more Holy Thursday or Good Friday either.

Throughout Australia, the new church already has Ascension Sunday, which could, of course, be celebrated on the Saturday vigil. There go your novenas!

Nah.

The powers that be (world Ecuмenical leaders) are planning on fixing one Sunday in April to be Easter.

This would not work because Easter should always follow the Jєωιѕн Passover.

We must resist.

Guess there will be three different days on which to celebrate Easter or Pascha. We will be more divided that ever.

Gregorian Easter (Traditonal Catholics and Christians - current civil Easter)
Julian Old Calendar Pascha (Traditional Orthodox in Russia)
Anglican/Ecuмenical Patriarch/Roman Catholic Easter (New Civil Easter)

Several years ago, I heard that the Conciliar sect was in negotiations with various Protestant sects to fix the date of Easter to a particular Sunday of April, I forget which one.  At the time, it seemed that an announcement as imminent.  Then the whole issue seemed to fade away.

I have my doubts that this is actually being seriously discussed amongst the Modernists sects.

Anglicans in negotiation with Catholics to fix the date of Easter:

Justin Welby said he had been in discussions with Catholic representatives and the world’s other major Christian denominations to agree on a fixed day for Easter

Do you think this will happen?  If so what will traditionalists do?

Nope. The Archbishop of Canterbury can do what he wants with the date of Easter to the Anglicans because England is a theocratic state and the Abp. works for the government. Anything the Church of England does is through Parliament.

This does not apply to Catholicism, nor does it apply to other churches.

At first glance, expecting Catholics to abandon Ash Wednesday to accept Ash Monday or Ash Sunday or whatever, seems impossible.  But then considering how many other long-held traditions have been given up overnight, one can't presume to know what nonsense Catholics will endure in the future.

Wait and see, and don't be too surprised come what may.

The important thing is to know what the tradition is based on so you can know why and when to resist the novelties.

If Bergoglio and his bishops announce that henceforth, Easter is the third Sunday of April and Ash Wednesday will be transferred to the prior Sunday (they won't change it to Monday), the Novus Ordo community will accept it, no questions asked.  In fact, many Conciliar apologists (e.g., EWTN, Catholic Answers, etc.) will praise the change with, "It's about time the Church fixed this problem."

The Indult community is another question.  They may or may not go with the change.  In the Indianapolis archdiocese, the Indult parish retains the 1962 calendar's date for the Feast of Christ the King while the Novus Ordo uses the new date for the Feast of Christ the King.  It is possible that the Indult will use the traditional date while the Novus Ordo uses the new "fixed" date.

The R&R community will use the traditional date if the Indult community does so.  What they will do if the Indult community uses the new "fixed" date is not something that, I think, anyone can know until (or if) it happens.

Catholics, on the other hand, will reject the novelty.