StevusMagnus said:Only problem is that libs will NOT shut up and endure. They will raise Hell. Catholics should have done this in 1965, but they trusted the priest/ wolves were doing the Pope's bidding.
They were. All the infiltrators knew that the Vatican II Council was a signal to start attacking the Church and dismantling it from within. Paul VI opened the floodgates, like a vampire pack leader giving secret signals to his undead flock.
You don't think Paul "The U.N. is the last best hope for mankind" VI knew that endless variations of the Novus Ordo Mass were being enforced everywhere and shoved down the throats of the unwilling? You don't think he knew about the wreckovations? So everyone knew except the "Pope"? Speaking of wreckovations, there were very visible ones happening in the reign of Pius XII, who did nothing, such as the infamies of Le Corbusier in France.
Sainte-Marie de la Tourette('s Syndrome ) --
Let's say, just for the sake of argument, that Paul VI was somehow in the dark about liturgical abuse. Not even by gouging your own eyes out could you say the same for Benedict, yet SSPX-ers persist in trying to act as if he is half-traditional. Has it not struck you that we live in the information age when anyone can turn on the computer and instantly find out what everyone is doing and yet Benedict continues to fail to reprimand priests who perform sacrilegious "masses," "masses" which, moreover, have been filmed for posterity? Do you think Benedict doesn't have a computer, or has no information about the plethora of liturgical abuses out there that trads have been talking about for decades? Do you think he is unaware that the seminaries are pedophile havens? HE DOES NOTHING. Don't you get it?
Look, go ahead and say you believe the Popes haven't crossed the bounds of infallibility with their errors and heresies, but please don't act as if these "Popes" are orthodox. It makes me fear for your sanity. Even if I were not sedevacantist and in the Vatican II Church, I would not go into denial like the AngelQueeners and pretend like Benedict, a heretic who gleefully spoke of Vatican II being "1789 in the Church," is going to fix anything.
Your posts make me want to grab you by the shoulders and shake you violently. If there is such a thing as being too innocent, it is you.
My one wish is that the tables are turned completely one day and the measure they measured out is used on them.
1.) Orders from "the Pope" that we go back to the way everything was before the "changes".
2.) Disgruntled complaining libs told to obey because this is what the Holy Father wants.
3.) Priests growing "very tired" of complaining libs.
And I wish I could fly through the air like a bird by flapping my arms. What do wishes have to do with it?
Let's say the "Pope" -- glad you put that in quotes -- did turn back the clock and reinforced the Tridentine Rite. What about the errors of the "Magisterium," though? Are you saying you want the indefectible Catholic Church to admit that for half a century it has led everyone astray on matters of faith and morals?
The thing about you SSPX types is that every time they throw you a bone, some little sop to tradition, you act like a starving dog grateful to see a crumb. You ignore that the one giving you the crumb is the same one who locked you in a dungeon and starved you in the first place. You lick his hand with pitiful gratitude. I'm telling you, you have a spiritual form of Stockholm Syndrome. Stop accepting half-truths and demand the FULL faith. It will take more than the Tridentine Rite to bring that back.
See, they have gutted the Church, they have made missionary work almost impossible, and those that do convert get so many mixed messages about what a Catholic is that the majority of them are unrecognizable as brothers and sisters in the faith. There's no way to "turn back the clock" when it comes to what is going on in Rome. That clock must be smashed into pieces.