Author Topic: CDF to Begin Deliberations on SSPX on Tuesday (Read 1936 times)

Augstine Baker · « **on:** January 24, 2012, 12:55:41 AM »

Rome (kath.net/KAP)The Vatican Congregation for Doctrine and the Faith is beginning its plenary meeting in the Vatican. The plenum will be led by the Prefect of the Congregation, Cardinal William Levada. The Congregation for Doctrine and the Faith will take place with Cardinals Kurt Koch and Kasper as Ecuмenical experts as well as Vienna's Christoph Schönborn among the three German speaking Cardinals. Even the 64 year old Regensburg Bishop Gerhard Müller is a member and is listed as one of the three favorites to succeed Cardinnal Levada after his foreseen retirement in April.

http://eponymousflower.blogspot.com/2012/01/cdf-will-deliberate-starting-tuesday-on.html

Emerentiana · « **Reply #1 on:** January 24, 2012, 01:02:12 AM »

Who cares!

Augstine Baker · « **Reply #2 on:** January 24, 2012, 01:14:04 AM »

Quote from: Emerentiana

Who cares!

Catholics.

Rosemary · « **Reply #3 on:** January 24, 2012, 01:26:21 AM »

Quote from: Emerentiana

Who cares!

Precisely! The See of Peter is vacant, thus making selections of "cardinals" inconsequential.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 24, 2012, 01:35:16 AM »

Lol, good one, Emerentiana.

Augstine Baker · « **Reply #5 on:** January 24, 2012, 02:21:22 AM »

I think the psychology of the average Sede can be summed up as, "the little engine that couldn't".

What a bunch of petty natterers of nabobitivity.

They're not the same men who walked three thousand miles to Jerusalem and took it.

Wessex · « **Reply #6 on:** January 26, 2012, 06:18:03 PM »

If they were they would be a thousand years old ......

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #7 on:** January 26, 2012, 07:35:40 PM »

1.) Cardinal William Levada

- Previously Refused TLM to be said in his diocese

2.) Cardinals Kurt Koch and Kasper

- Head and former head of the Ecuмenical Office.

- Kaspar believes we need to replace the notion of "conversion of non-Catholics" with "convergence with non-Catholics."

3.) Vienna's Christoph Schönborn

- Balloon Disco Mass

4.) Bishop Gerhard Müller

- Pupil of Gustavo Gutiérrez, the “father” of Latin-American liberation theology

Anyone care to guess how these "deliberations" will turn out? :scratchchin:

Emerentiana · « **Reply #8 on:** January 26, 2012, 07:48:30 PM »

Quote from: Raoul76

Lol, good one, Emerentiana.

:cheers:

Augstine Baker · « **Reply #9 on:** January 27, 2012, 07:26:40 AM »

Quote from: stevusmagnus

1.) Cardinal William Levada

- Previously Refused TLM to be said in his diocese

2.) Cardinals Kurt Koch and Kasper

- Head and former head of the Ecuмenical Office.

- Kaspar believes we need to replace the notion of "conversion of non-Catholics" with "convergence with non-Catholics."

3.) Vienna's Christoph Schönborn

- Balloon Disco Mass

4.) Bishop Gerhard Müller

- Pupil of Gustavo Gutiérrez, the “father” of Latin-American liberation theology

Anyone care to guess how these "deliberations" will turn out? :scratchchin:

I'm kind of surprised +Schoenborn has been consulted for this, well any of them really, but he's one of the worst of them all.

Augstine Baker · « **Reply #10 on:** January 27, 2012, 07:27:31 AM »

Quote from: Wessex

If they were they would be a thousand years old ......

:roll-laugh2:

Wessex · « **Reply #11 on:** January 27, 2012, 07:32:31 AM »

This German cabal has made a career out of demostrating their liberalism. They have this great need to prove something beyond the confines of religion. Ratzinger suffers from this psychology big time. And I had the impression that Lefebvrism was all about staying away from such people. But like a battered wife it likes to keep going back for more.

Raoul76 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 27, 2012, 02:33:48 PM »

It's intellectual pride tainted by German existentialist philosophy. Benedict is such a pseudo-intellectual. He tries to use Heidegger-type language and mix it in with his unique brand of non-Catholicism, and it is so amateur. He isn't even good at it.

Now, someone like Hans Urs von Balthasar, he is sort of what Benedict wants to be, the ultimate German super-brain mystic-philosopher-intellectual Catholic or "Catholic." He has this enormous capacity to synthesize information, much of which seems beyond the confines of Catholicism or irrelevant to it. And of course he has his own wacked theories.

Wikipedia said --

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Balthasar has expressed some sympathy with a "hope" for salvation for non-Christians, but warns against asserting it.[16] Universal salvation, if it happens, would be the result of Christ's "utter abandoment".

Uh, there is no hope for it, that alone is a heresy, though he tries to make it sound less bad than saying it WILL happen.

Germans have a strong mystic streak ( yes, I know Balthasar is Swiss, but he's German-speaking as are many modernist mystics ) and this is what happens when it goes rotten and the devil gets in there, making them take their whims and fantasies and musings for reality i.e. when there is no discernment of spirits.

Augstine Baker · « **Reply #13 on:** January 27, 2012, 06:39:45 PM »

Quote from: Wessex

This German cabal has made a career out of demostrating their liberalism. They have this great need to prove something beyond the confines of religion. Ratzinger suffers from this psychology big time. And I had the impression that Lefebvrism was all about staying away from such people. But like a battered wife it likes to keep going back for more.

You're correct about the German cabal and the University of Tubingen types who dominated the Pastoral Council, but I'm not certain you're as well-informed about Pope Benedict.