Author Topic: Catholic Parishes (Read 2386 times)

poche · « **on:** August 29, 2014, 01:13:27 AM »

Pope Francis devoted his August 27 general audience to two of the marks of the Church: her holiness and unity.

The Church, he said, is “one because she has her origin in the Triune God, mystery of unity and full communion,” and “holy because she is founded by Jesus Christ, enlivened by his Holy Spirit, and filled with his love and salvation.”

The Church’s members, Pope Francis continued, are sinners who are not faithful to Jesus Christ, and thus the Church’s holiness beckons sinners to convert. Christ, the Pope added, walks with sinners and stands ready to forgive them.

After recalling Jesus’ prayer for unity after the Last Supper (John 17) and the unity of early Christians (Acts 4:12), the Pontiff devoted most of the remainder of the audience to divisions in parishes. While he said he was not asking those assembled in St. Peter’s Square to “cut off the tongue,” he did ask them to pray for the grace not to gossip and not to “look at the defects of others, rather than their skills.”

Calling for prayers for the unity of all Christians, Pope Francis said that division is a “grave sin” that is the “work of the devil, who is by definition the one who separates.”

http://www.catholicculture.org/news/headlines/index.cfm?storyid=22401

Are you a source of gissip and division at the church or chapel where you worship?

OHCA · « **Reply #1 on:** August 29, 2014, 06:32:19 AM »

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Calling for prayers for the unity of all Christians, Pope Francis said that division is a “grave sin” that is the “work of the devil, who is by definition the one who separates.”

Here's the "cut the bullshit" translation: You are to silently accept fαɢɢօts, sodomites, divorced adulterors at the (proverbial) communion rail; you are to shut the F up about me [Frank] being a loose canon dumb heretic and not argue with those in your parish who love Humble Me; "Who Am I To Judge"....

poche · « **Reply #2 on:** August 29, 2014, 11:58:34 PM »

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Calling for prayers for the unity of all Christians, Pope Francis said that division is a “grave sin” that is the “work of the devil, who is by definition the one who separates.”

Here's the "cut the bull####" translation: You are to silently accept fαɢɢօts, sodomites, divorced adulterors at the (proverbial) communion rail; you are to shut the F up about me [Frank] being a loose canon dumb heretic and not argue with those in your parish who love Humble Me; "Who Am I To Judge"....

No one who is in the state of mortal sin is invited to recieve Holy Communion in any Catholic church.

OHCA · « **Reply #3 on:** August 30, 2014, 07:10:18 AM »

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Calling for prayers for the unity of all Christians, Pope Francis said that division is a “grave sin” that is the “work of the devil, who is by definition the one who separates.”

Here's the "cut the bull####" translation: You are to silently accept fαɢɢօts, sodomites, divorced adulterors at the (proverbial) communion rail; you are to shut the F up about me [Frank] being a loose canon dumb heretic and not argue with those in your parish who love Humble Me; "Who Am I To Judge"....

No one who is in the state of mortal sin is invited to recieve Holy Communion in any Catholic church.

I previously lived in a neighboring county to a parish that rolled out the red carpet to a fαɢɢօt couple. They went there specifically because they were permitted to receive communion there and not in my parish, where they, too, lived. I'm not talking about some kind of pseudo new age church that is too liberally wild to be under a diocese either. This church was in the same diocese that I was in.

Also, what about the fag "mass" in NYC a few weeks ago?

Have you ever heard the phrase "Actions speak louder than words?" What I have personal knowledge of and public scandals such as fag "masses" tell me more about who the conciliarist invite to the (proverbially speaking, of course) communion rail than what the "church" says is its position with forked-tongue ambiguous double-speak.

2Vermont · « **Reply #4 on:** August 30, 2014, 07:19:18 AM »

Francis once again shows he doesn't have a clue what "unity" means other than a Modernist version of it.

2Vermont · « **Reply #5 on:** August 30, 2014, 07:37:36 AM »

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Quote from: poche
Calling for prayers for the unity of all Christians, Pope Francis said that division is a “grave sin” that is the “work of the devil, who is by definition the one who separates.”

Here's the "cut the bull####" translation: You are to silently accept fαɢɢօts, sodomites, divorced adulterors at the (proverbial) communion rail; you are to shut the F up about me [Frank] being a loose canon dumb heretic and not argue with those in your parish who love Humble Me; "Who Am I To Judge"....

No one who is in the state of mortal sin is invited to recieve Holy Communion in any Catholic church.

I previously lived in a neighboring county to a parish that rolled out the red carpet to a fαɢɢօt couple. They went there specifically because they were permitted to receive communion there and not in my parish, where they, too, lived. I'm not talking about some kind of pseudo new age church that is too liberally wild to be under a diocese either. This church was in the same diocese that I was in.

Also, what about the fag "mass" in NYC a few weeks ago?

Have you ever heard the phrase "Actions speak louder than words?" What I have personal knowledge of and public scandals such as fag "masses" tell me more about who the conciliarist invite to the (proverbially speaking, of course) communion rail than what the "church" says is its position with forked-tongue ambiguous double-speak.

Or the general invitation to a NO mass that included "those that are gαy or straight" by one of my local "Catholic" priests. Nowhere did he make it clear about who should not be receiving communion. Clearly he inferred that gαys should receive communion as well. Sometimes it's what's NOT said, but strongly implied.

TKGS · « **Reply #6 on:** August 30, 2014, 09:34:47 AM »

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Quote from: poche
Calling for prayers for the unity of all Christians, Pope Francis said that division is a “grave sin” that is the “work of the devil, who is by definition the one who separates.”

Here's the "cut the bull####" translation: You are to silently accept fαɢɢօts, sodomites, divorced adulterors at the (proverbial) communion rail; you are to shut the F up about me [Frank] being a loose canon dumb heretic and not argue with those in your parish who love Humble Me; "Who Am I To Judge"....

No one who is in the state of mortal sin is invited to recieve Holy Communion in any Catholic church.

You're not paying attention, are you. He has already invited people who are objectively in the state of mortal sin to receive communion in the Conciliar church. It is likely that it will be official at the October synod.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #7 on:** August 30, 2014, 01:24:41 PM »

Poche,

You will never convert me, nor I will be able to convert you.

If you want to advertised the novus ordo. Please go on a
novus ordo site.

They will love you.

We here all know what "Francis" is about.

JezusDeKoning · « **Reply #8 on:** August 30, 2014, 02:33:02 PM »

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Quote from: poche
Calling for prayers for the unity of all Christians, Pope Francis said that division is a “grave sin” that is the “work of the devil, who is by definition the one who separates.”

Here's the "cut the bull####" translation: You are to silently accept fαɢɢօts, sodomites, divorced adulterors at the (proverbial) communion rail; you are to shut the F up about me [Frank] being a loose canon dumb heretic and not argue with those in your parish who love Humble Me; "Who Am I To Judge"....

No one who is in the state of mortal sin is invited to recieve Holy Communion in any Catholic church.

But they still do in the Novus Ordo and no one gives a rat's ass. Sordid fαɢs and other sɛҳuąƖ deviants, Protestants, the apostates in Congress stealing the "Catholic" moniker for next year's votes, etc.

It is to the point that if a significant number of Novus Ordo clergy did not believe in mortal sin, I wouldn't be surprised at all. Again, Poche: Get out of the Novus Ordo bubble.

TKGS · « **Reply #9 on:** August 30, 2014, 08:15:37 PM »

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Poche: Get out of the Novus Ordo bubble.

I think this is unfair to poche. He's clearly not in the "Novus Ordo bubble". The things he tells us are according to what should be. The problem is that he seems to truly believe that what should be actually is. It seems that he cannot see what the Novus Ordo hierarchy is actually teaching. He, along with people such as Mr. Voris, seems to think that when Bergoglio and the bishops say something that is orthodox, they are teaching the Catholic faith but when they say things contrary to the Catholic faith they are not being understood correctly.

It seems incredible that virtually the entire world can see what they teach but there is a small group of "conservative" Catholics who simply refuse to believe their own eyes and ears.

Mabel · « **Reply #10 on:** August 30, 2014, 09:22:50 PM »

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Poche: Get out of the Novus Ordo bubble.

I think this is unfair to poche. He's clearly not in the "Novus Ordo bubble". The things he tells us are according to what should be. The problem is that he seems to truly believe that what should be actually is. It seems that he cannot see what the Novus Ordo hierarchy is actually teaching. He, along with people such as Mr. Voris, seems to think that when Bergoglio and the bishops say something that is orthodox, they are teaching the Catholic faith but when they say things contrary to the Catholic faith they are not being understood correctly.

It seems incredible that virtually the entire world can see what they teach but there is a small group of "conservative" Catholics who simply refuse to believe their own eyes and ears.

Exactly.

poche · « **Reply #11 on:** August 30, 2014, 10:47:09 PM »

he did ask them to pray for the grace not to gossip and not to “look at the defects of others, rather than their skills.”

Actually the reason I posted this in the Crisis section is that Pope Francis gave the talk. However the real purpose of posting this is because I wanted everyone to look into their souls a little bit and see where idle gossip and rash judgement was playing a part in the life of their church. Is it possible that there is someone who you thought you knew (as a bad person) that you later on found out was really not the bad person you thought they were?

OHCA · « **Reply #12 on:** August 31, 2014, 12:20:03 AM »

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[T]he real purpose of posting this is because I wanted everyone to look into their souls a little bit and see where idle gossip and rash judgement was playing a part in the life of their church. Is it possible that there is someone who you thought you knew (as a bad person) that you later on found out was really not the bad person you thought they were?

So kind of a rehash of Ekim's recent "'Trads' are a bunch of unfriendly @$$holes" thread, huh... And to answer your question--no. Anytime that I've let my guard down and associated with someone whom I knew better than to do, I have generally been burned or defiled.

TKGS is giving you too much benefit of the doubt. It seems to me that you are quite pleased with conciliardom, and that what matters is everybody getting along and getting in a circle and singing kumbayah. I don't know how old you are. But you strike me as one of the passive-aggressive liberal hippies who would have been giddy over the implementation of V-II. You strike me as one of the worst kind of conciliarists.

What do you get out of interacting on CI? What do you think you impart unto the forum? Are you trying to convert us or convince us that the Frank the Fraud Circus is the grandest slice of Catholicism one could hope for?

poche · « **Reply #13 on:** August 31, 2014, 12:35:12 AM »

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[T]he real purpose of posting this is because I wanted everyone to look into their souls a little bit and see where idle gossip and rash judgement was playing a part in the life of their church. Is it possible that there is someone who you thought you knew (as a bad person) that you later on found out was really not the bad person you thought they were?

So kind of a rehash of Ekim's recent "'Trads' are a bunch of unfriendly @$$holes" thread, huh... And to answer your question--no. Anytime that I've let my guard down and associated with someone whom I knew better than to do, I have generally been burned or defiled.

TKGS is giving you too much benefit of the doubt. It seems to me that you are quite pleased with conciliardom, and that what matters is everybody getting along and getting in a circle and singing kumbayah. I don't know how old you are. But you strike me as one of the passive-aggressive liberal hippies who would have been giddy over the implementation of V-II. You strike me as one of the worst kind of conciliarists.

What do you get out of interacting on CI? What do you think you impart unto the forum? Are you trying to convert us or convince us that the Frank the Fraud Circus is the grandest slice of Catholicism one could hope for?

The last thing i would say is that 'Trads' are a bunch of unfriendly @$$holes" The problem of idle gossip and rash judgement applies to everyone. St. Theresa of Avila warned about the danger of gossip, rash judgement and factions in religous communities in her book "The Way of Perfection."

TKGS · « **Reply #14 on:** August 31, 2014, 05:26:29 AM »

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TKGS is giving you too much benefit of the doubt.

Based on the responses, you may be right.

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Actually the reason I posted this in the Crisis section is that Pope Francis gave the talk.

And if the Dali Lama had given the talk, would you have posted it in the "Catholic Living in the Modern World" forum?