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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
« Reply #15 on: August 18, 2018, 01:22:15 PM »
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  • “There is no on-going crisis—it’s a total myth,” the tweet read.
    “In fact, there is no institution,” it claimed, “private or public, that has less of a problem with the sɛҳuąƖ abuse of minors today than the Catholic Church.”

    That statement is inaccurate and condones mortal sin.  

    You slander and attack me.
    Even the Vatican has now admitted there is a crisis.  

    Your thread title is absolutely slanderous.  Donahue is disputing the existence of a crisis that's somehow unique to the Catholic Church.  He is not condoning any actual sins committed that were committed along these lines.

    If I say that I don't think some person committed adultery, does that mean I'm condoning adultery?  Even if you disagree, and believe that there is evidence to the contrary, it's slanderous to claim that I am defending adultery.  Please apply basic logic, would you?

    Donahue is 100% spot on with his analysis, and he is in no way defending mortal sin.  Now you'll go ahead and claim that I am defending mortal sin for claiming that Donahue is not defending mortal sin, right?


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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #16 on: August 18, 2018, 01:25:47 PM »
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  • I agree with your thoughts completely, Viva.  Can't believe that people on this site want to paper it over by claiming the Jєωs did it.  Those that keep defending it are the biggest part of the problem.

    Nobody's papering anything over, except the media who are blaming the Church (almost exclusively) rather than blaming ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs.

    And there's no question but that the Jєωs are the ones excoriating the Catholic Church almost exclusively.  As Donahue points out, statistics demonstrate that the incidence of such sins is NO HIGHER in the Catholic Church than in any other group ... including among rabbis.  But when's the last time anyone saw a story in the news about rabbis abusing children?  Answer:  never.

    That's what is at issue here, not whether or not there have been pedophile crimes committed by Novus Ordo presbyters.


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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #17 on: August 18, 2018, 01:28:09 PM »
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  • This is the kind of thing that happens when people put emotion above reason.

    For this reason, women should be barred from serving on juries.  How many people have been wrongly convicted in courts of law (later proven to be innocent) simply because the gravity of the crime was so great that SOMEONE had to pay, and the jurors considered acquittal to be tantamount to condoning the horrific crime.  WHAT was done is completely distinct from the question of whether the person on trial was actually guilty of it.

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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #18 on: August 18, 2018, 10:42:56 PM »
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  • This is the kind of thing that happens when people put emotion above reason.

    For this reason, women should be barred from serving on juries.  How many people have been wrongly convicted in courts of law (later proven to be innocent) simply because the gravity of the crime was so great that SOMEONE had to pay, and the jurors considered acquittal to be tantamount to condoning the horrific crime.  WHAT was done is completely distinct from the question of whether the person on trial was actually guilty of it.
    Well, if it makes you feel better we'll call them homo priest within the Novus Ordo. They are still there because of the admission policies  bullied into place in seminaries which became quite sucessful. Then when the problems became known, the PTB within the "Church" did everything they could to hide it and protect their fellow sodomites. Since the man Bergolio is at the top, I'd say the buck stops there.
    So, who are these mystery figures doing end runs around the parish priests. The Slender man?

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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #19 on: August 19, 2018, 02:13:58 PM »
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  • Well, if it makes you feel better we'll call them homo priest within the Novus Ordo.

    Nobody cares what YOU call them.  What's at issue is Donahue's correct assessment that the media is targeting the Catholic Church exclusively.  So what institution these days is not homo-friendly?  No, in fact, the Catholic Church is often attacked for its "homophobia" on top of the pedophilia problem.  So, let's get this straight, the Church is supposed to let homos become priests and then get attacked after said homos assault young boys.  This is what you're incapable of seeing.


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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #20 on: August 19, 2018, 11:11:26 PM »
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  • And, as Donahue suggests, why aren't ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs as a group vilified by the media for this behavior?  Instead, they attack the Catholic Church and the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs walk away unscathed.
    These priest-pederasts are ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, but the MSM doesn't tell you that.
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    Act of Reparation to the Sacred Heart of Jesus
    « Reply #21 on: August 19, 2018, 11:15:45 PM »
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  • “Here is what’s going on,” he concludes. “There are many vicious critics of the Catholic Church who would like to weaken its moral authority, and will seize on any problem it has to discredit its voice. Why? They hate its teachings on sɛҳuąƖity, marriage, and the family.”
    I think the MSM got sick of talking about Russia, so they're resorting to this (again). And it's right before U.S. elections. Coincidence?

    Time to pray an Act of Reparation to the Sacred Heart of Jesus, specifically:
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    We wish also to make amends for the insults to which Thy Vicar on earth and Thy priests are subjected, for the profanation, by conscious neglect or terrible acts of sacrilege, of the very crimes of nations who resist the rights and teaching authority of the Church which Thou hast founded.
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    Bill Donahue's debunking of grand jury report
    « Reply #22 on: August 19, 2018, 11:32:44 PM »
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  • Here's Bill Donahue's report:
    "PENNSYLVANIA GRAND JURY REPORT DEBUNKED"

    He seems to put things in perspective.

    Quote from: Bill Donahue
    The report covers accusations extending back to World War II. Almost all the accused are either dead or have been thrown out of the priesthood. For example, in the Diocese of hαɾɾιsburg, 71 persons are named: 42 are dead and four are missing. Most of those who are still alive are no longer in ministry.

    There are some cases that are so old that they are unbelievable. Consider the case of Father Joseph M. Ganter. Born in 1892, he was accused in 2008 by an 80-year-old man of abusing him in the 1930s. Obviously, nothing came of it. But the priest was accustomed to such charges.
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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #23 on: August 19, 2018, 11:46:11 PM »
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  • Nobody cares what YOU call them.  What's at issue is Donahue's correct assessment that the media is targeting the Catholic Church exclusively.  So what institution these days is not homo-friendly?  No, in fact, the Catholic Church is often attacked for its "homophobia" on top of the pedophilia problem.  So, let's get this straight, the Church is supposed to let homos become priests and then get attacked after said homos assault young boys.  This is what you're incapable of seeing.
    No, what  YOU miss is that it's not a disagreement about nomenclature. It's not about what I'm calling them, it's about who they are.  Just because my enemy has an enemy  doesn't make either one of them , per se, correct.  Sure the evil in the world is focusing its relentless forces against the Church. That doesn't make it alright to molest young boys. Both sides are wrong and deserve strong punishment.  This "small percentage" is a myth. Besides being doctrinaly, astoundingly wrong, they have quite predictably, fallen into horrible practices that are spreading like weeds. The new church says it's a small amount, and they are cleaning up what's left. Horse manure! What percentage?  I'd say darned well ALL of them, or at least 95%. It has even crept into the SSPX, if what I'm reading here is true.
    Look,  I'm not looking to become the next Wessex here. I'm not saying there is nowhere to turn. As they used to say on that X-Files program, the truth is out there. This ends in joy for those who persevere.
    You and Donahue are stuck in the 20th century in your concept of the world. . It is far, far later than that.


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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #24 on: August 20, 2018, 03:39:42 AM »
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  • And, as Donahue suggests, why aren't ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs as a group vilified by the media for this behavior?  Instead, they attack the Catholic Church and the ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs walk away unscathed.
    If ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is so good why are they bothering those guys?

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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #25 on: August 20, 2018, 03:41:56 AM »
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  • It isn't slanderous.  It is the truth.  
    We all know it's true.  These people should have been locked up a long time ago but the Catholic Church condoned it.  Thumb down me all you want. There are threads here that support the findings of the Grand jury you lukewarm Catholics.  I guess Scranton was all lies and a myth.  What is wrong with you people?  If the Church was Catholic, then the Jєωs would have nothing on the Church.  The Church is destroying itself.  Stop blaming the Jєωs when it is lukewarm Catholics that is the problem.  Once lukewarm Catholics changed the Mass which allowed the smoke of Satan into the Church.  

    The Catholic Church put itself in this position.  

    There have been tons of parents who back up the pedophiles priests instead of  their own children.  
    What you should really worry about is what is going on in the public schools. They are doing the same types of covering up and allowing bad teachers to resign so that they can go elsewhere and do the same things over again.
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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #26 on: August 20, 2018, 03:45:22 AM »
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  • The problem is that these are allegations. Many of them may be true but there are also many that are false. They are very likely so false that a prosecutor could not get a conviction. Any body can make an allegation. But where do the accused innocent ones go to get their reputations back?  

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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #27 on: August 20, 2018, 12:21:38 PM »
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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #28 on: August 20, 2018, 12:25:02 PM »
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  • Why is every DA & AG in this post Jєωιѕн?
    Because it has nothing to with their concerns for justice (their idea of "justice" is that of the French Revolution's Declaration on the Rights of Man); it's a plot against the Catholic Church's moral authority.

    How incompetent is Pennsylvania that it took their AG decades before actually formulating this report, half the suspects of which are now dead? Clearly, they're not concerned with children, else they'd've formulated this report decades ago.

    This "report" has nothing to do with their concern for victims but with distracting the U.S. from greater issues, like child-killing and the real possibility of overturning Roe v. Wade after this coming U.S. election.
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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #29 on: August 20, 2018, 11:00:06 PM »
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  • And half the suspects are dead.
    So who can tell which allegations are nonsense and which allegations are real?This is just a government sponsered smear campaign against the Catholic Church.