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Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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Catholic League defends mortal sin.
« on: August 17, 2018, 08:03:42 AM »
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  • Catholic League tweet denying sexual abuse crisis met with scorn on social media

    The Catholic League responded defiantly to a report from a grand jury in Pennsylvania outlining egregious allegations of sexual abuse for decades by members of the clergy. (Photo by Don Murray/Getty Images)
      
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    The Catholic League denied there was an ongoing crisis over child sex abuse allegations in a Pennsylvania grand jury report, and the social media message was met with disgust and scorn.

    “There are many vicious critics of the Catholic Church…”

    The Catholic League for Religious and Civil Rights has been a vehement defender of the church’s theology and agenda, but their tweet denying the crisis from the sexual abuse report was not greeted warmly.


    “There is no on-going crisis—it’s a total myth,” the tweet read.
    “In fact, there is no institution,” it claimed, “private or public, that has less of a problem with the sexual abuse of minors today than the Catholic Church.”
    The account linked to a counterargument from the Catholic League president, Bill Donahue.

    Donahue argued that the mainstream media was presenting the findings from the grand jury as fact when they were investigatory and not conclusive.
    “Importantly, in almost all cases,” Donahue argued, “the accused named in the report was never afforded the right to rebut the charges. That is because the report was investigative, not evidentiary, though the report’s summary suggests that it is authoritative. It manifestly is not.”
    Donahue goes on to claim that the rate of substantiated abuse in the Catholic church is .005 percent, or one of every 200 Catholic clergymen. In another section, he accuses the media of covering the role of homosexual clergymen in the abuses, in favor of blaming the church.
    “Here is what’s going on,” he concludes. “There are many vicious critics of the Catholic Church who would like to weaken its moral authority, and will seize on any problem it has to discredit its voice. Why? They hate its teachings on sexuality, marriage, and the family.”
    “Ignorant, tone-deaf, arrogant”
    The summation was met with scorn from many on social media.
    “Imagine. Imagine being this blind. Oh my God have mercy,” responded Esquire editor Dave Holmes.
    “Bill Donahue’s soul just leaked out of his body,” repliedCommentary editor John Podhoretz.
    “Did the Catholic League just call Fake News on thousands of molestations?” asked Doug Stafford, the chief strategist for Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.). “Lowlife,” he added.
    “One of the most shameful, ignorant, tone-deaf, arrogant tweets I’ve ever seen,” said Jim Lokay of Fox News’ local affiliate in Washington D.C. “One child abused is one child too many. I’d love to see the @CatholicLeague’s Bill Donohue say, to the face any of the victims, the cover-up of the crimes perpetrated against them was ‘a total myth.'”

    “The pope is on their side”

    The Vatican responded to the report Thursday in a much less defensive statement than that of the Catholic League.
    “The abuses described in the report are criminal and morally reprehensible,” the Vatican statement read. “Those acts were betrayals of trust that robbed survivors of their dignity and their faith. The church must learn hard lessons from its past, and there should be accountability for both abusers and those who permitted abuse to occur.”
    “Victims should know that the pope is on their side,” the statement added.
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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #1 on: August 17, 2018, 08:48:06 AM »
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  • Your thread title is slanderous.  In this case, the Catholic League is making some very legitimate arguments.  At no point did they condone mortal sin.


    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #2 on: August 17, 2018, 08:50:10 AM »
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    Donahue goes on to claim that the rate of substantiated abuse in the Catholic church is .005 percent, or one of every 200 Catholic clergymen. In another section, he accuses the media of covering the role of homosexual clergymen in the abuses, in favor of blaming the church.

    “Here is what’s going on,” he concludes. “There are many vicious critics of the Catholic Church who would like to weaken its moral authority, and will seize on any problem it has to discredit its voice. Why? They hate its teachings on sexuality, marriage, and the family.”

    Donahue is spot on.  More rabbis abuse children than even Novus Ordo presbyters, and yet the Church gets all the media attacks because they "would like to weaken its moral authority, and will season on any problem it has to discredit its voice ... [because] they hate its teachings on sexuality, marriage, and the family."

    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #3 on: August 17, 2018, 09:15:03 AM »
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  • And, as Donahue suggests, why aren't homosexuals as a group vilified by the media for this behavior?  Instead, they attack the Catholic Church and the homosexuals walk away unscathed.

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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #4 on: August 17, 2018, 09:49:37 AM »
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  • And, as Donahue suggests, why aren't homosexuals as a group vilified by the media for this behavior?  Instead, they attack the Catholic Church and the homosexuals walk away unscathed.
    Who controls the media? We all know the answer.
    "Kindness is for fools! They [modernists] want to be treated with oil, soap, and caresses, but they ought to be beaten with fists. In a duel, you don't count or measure the blows, you strike as you can. War is not made with charity. It is a struggle, a duel." -- Pope St. Pius X


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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #5 on: August 17, 2018, 10:12:24 AM »
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  • And, as Donahue suggests, why aren't homosexuals as a group vilified by the media for this behavior?  Instead, they attack the Catholic Church and the homosexuals walk away unscathed.

    It's another judeo-masonic "anti-Catholic" slander-fest.


    They've batched together crimes and events going back 20 years and present it in lurid detail. 
    All for public consumption, to portray the Church in the worst light.


    The tactic is reminiscent of jew, Ken Starr's Clinton-Lewynski investigation.



    Ken, revealed all the sordid details which were fed to the front-page media for months.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #6 on: August 17, 2018, 10:27:35 AM »
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    Catholic League’s Bill Donohue has called the Pennsylvania grand jury report on alleged clerical abuses an "ongoing war on the Catholic Church", strewn with lies, hypocrisy, bigotry, and corruption.

    Donohue reminds that this war started in 2001 when Philadelphia District Attorney Lynne Abraham received the charge “to investigate the sexual abuse of minors by individuals associated with religious organizations.” But she picked only the Catholic Church. In 2005, Abraham gave up: not a single priest was prosecuted.

    Round 2 of the war was started in 2010 by Abraham’s successor, Seth Williams. His star witness was Daniel Gallagher whom court-ordered evaluations described as “immature», "self-indulgent,” and “hedonistic.” Gallagher was a chronic liar, an alcoholic, a drug addict, and a thief. His own mother testified against him. Williams found him persuasive.

    Williams started one of the most incredibly unethical trials in recent memory against Msgr. Lynn who was convicted of not doing enough to protect minors from predatory priests. The decision was overturned by the state Supreme Court because Williams had treated jurors with endless testimony about alleged abuses having nothing to do with Lynn. Williams is now in jail after he was found guilty of bribery.

    Round 3 of the war started in 2014 when Altoona-Johnstown Bishop Mark Bartchak had immediately notified police upon learning of the conduct of an abuser. Instead of congratulating him, Attorney General Kathleen Kane launched a grand jury investigation of six Pennsylvania dioceses. Donohue calls this "a rank expression of anti-Catholicism." Kane is now sitting in prison for abusing her office.

    Round 4 started under Kane’s successor, Josh Shapiro who released the grand jury report who contains almost exclusively old cases extending back to the 1940s involving men who are either dead or were thrown out of the priesthood. Donohue comments: "Catholics in Pennsylvania are being played by some very sinister, dishonest, hypocritical and vindictive officials."

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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #7 on: August 17, 2018, 11:00:09 AM »
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  • Catholic League’s Bill Donohue has called the Pennsylvania grand jury report on alleged clerical abuses an "ongoing war on the Catholic Church", strewn with lies, hypocrisy, bigotry, and corruption.

    Donohue reminds that this war started in 2001 when Philadelphia District Attorney Lynne Abraham received the charge “to investigate the sexual abuse of minors by individuals associated with religious organizations.” But she picked only the Catholic Church. In 2005, Abraham gave up: not a single priest was prosecuted.

    Round 2 of the war was started in 2010 by Abraham’s successor, Seth Williams. His star witness was Daniel Gallagher whom court-ordered evaluations described as “immature», "self-indulgent,” and “hedonistic.” Gallagher was a chronic liar, an alcoholic, a drug addict, and a thief. His own mother testified against him. Williams found him persuasive.

    Williams started one of the most incredibly unethical trials in recent memory against Msgr. Lynn who was convicted of not doing enough to protect minors from predatory priests. The decision was overturned by the state Supreme Court because Williams had treated jurors with endless testimony about alleged abuses having nothing to do with Lynn. Williams is now in jail after he was found guilty of bribery.

    Round 3 of the war started in 2014 when Altoona-Johnstown Bishop Mark Bartchak had immediately notified police upon learning of the conduct of an abuser. Instead of congratulating him, Attorney General Kathleen Kane launched a grand jury investigation of six Pennsylvania dioceses. Donohue calls this "a rank expression of anti-Catholicism." Kane is now sitting in prison for abusing her office.

    Round 4 started under Kane’s successor, Josh Shapiro who released the grand jury report who contains almost exclusively old cases extending back to the 1940s involving men who are either dead or were thrown out of the priesthood. Donohue comments: "Catholics in Pennsylvania are being played by some very sinister, dishonest, hypocritical and vindictive officials."

    Why is every DA & AG in this post Jewish?

    Kathleen Kane (="Cohen")
    Lynne Abraham (no comment necessary)
    Seth Williams (probably changed his name, with Seth being a giveaway)
    Josh Shapiro (no comment needed)


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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #8 on: August 17, 2018, 12:59:41 PM »
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  • I would say that Rabbis and new order are of the same caliber.  Birds or a feather flock together.

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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #9 on: August 17, 2018, 09:39:36 PM »
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  • It isn't slanderous.  It is the truth.  
    We all know it's true.  These people should have been locked up a long time ago but the Catholic Church condoned it.  Thumb down me all you want. There are threads here that support the findings of the Grand jury you lukewarm Catholics.  I guess Scranton was all lies and a myth.  What is wrong with you people?  If the Church was Catholic, then the Jews would have nothing on the Church.  The Church is destroying itself.  Stop blaming the Jews when it is lukewarm Catholics that is the problem.  Once lukewarm Catholics changed the Mass which allowed the smoke of Satan into the Church.  

    The Catholic Church put itself in this position.  

    There have been tons of parents who back up the pedophiles priests instead of  their own children.   







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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #10 on: August 17, 2018, 09:55:22 PM »
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  • Bill Donohue demonstrated a legal conspiracy to prosecute the Catholic Church for sex abuse in Scranton.  They turned a decades old story into more fake, Jew news. 
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #11 on: August 17, 2018, 10:28:38 PM »
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  • “There is no on-going crisis—it’s a total myth,” the tweet read.
    “In fact, there is no institution,” it claimed, “private or public, that has less of a problem with the sexual abuse of minors today than the Catholic Church.”

    That statement is inaccurate and condones mortal sin.  

    You slander and attack me. 
    Even the Vatican has now admitted there is a crisis.  
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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #12 on: August 17, 2018, 10:35:36 PM »
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  • Scranton isn't old news.  Aren't these priests still out there somewhere?
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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #13 on: August 17, 2018, 11:54:14 PM »
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  • "It isn't slanderous.  It is the truth.  
    We all know it's true.  These people should have been locked up a long time ago but the Catholic Church condoned it.  Thumb down me all you want. There are threads here that support the findings of the Grand jury you lukewarm Catholics.  I guess Scranton was all lies and a myth.  What is wrong with you people?  If the Church was Catholic, then the Jews would have nothing on the Church.  The Church is destroying itself.  Stop blaming the Jews when it is lukewarm Catholics that is the problem.  Once lukewarm Catholics changed the Mass which allowed the smoke of Satan into the Church.  

    The Catholic Church put itself in this position.  

    There have been tons of parents who back up the pedophiles priests instead of  their own children. "--  VCR 

    I agree with your thoughts completely, Viva.  Can't believe that people on this site want to paper it over by claiming the Jews did it.  Those that keep defending it are the biggest part of the problem.

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    Re: Catholic League defends mortal sin.
    « Reply #14 on: August 18, 2018, 08:25:39 AM »
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