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Catholic hospitals prescribing morning-after pill!
« on: September 20, 2011, 02:59:41 PM »
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    Catholic hospitals prescribing ‘morning-after pill’

    Hospitals in Texas change policy after lobbying by pro-abortion group.

     
    Wednesday, September 14, 2011
     by Martin Barillas  

    Seton Healthcare, a large Catholic hospital network in Texas, has reversed policy and decided to provide the controversial Plan B emergency contraceptive to sɛҳuąƖ assault victims. Plan B is considered to be an abortifacient -- a drug or method that causes an abortion of a fertilized ovum -- by some in the medical and theological community. Seton is part of the Ascension Health network, the largest  non-profit  healthcare system in the United States.

     In an email to supporters, director of NARAL Pro-Choice Texas Sara Cleveland expressed satisfaction that Seton, which operates more than 50 Catholic hospitals and clinics in Texas, “has now implemented a policy to ensure that sɛҳuąƖ assault survivors will be offered emergency contraception (EC) as a standard course of treatment -- regardless of whether they choose to undergo an exam or file a police report.” Cleveland  received a call from Seton on August 9 confirming the policy change and told supporters by email that she was “happy to announce that there is now a stronger process in place to help protect sɛҳuąƖ assault survivors in Central Texas from unintended pregnancy.”

    Cleveland claimed that the change at Seton was the result of research, advocacy, communication, and perseverance, and to exchanges with a “vice-presidential level contact at Seton.”

    Seton spokeswoman Adrienne Lallo confirmed that Seton now provides the controversial drug Levonorgestrel -- known as Plan B or Plan B One Step -- as an emergency contraceptive to women claiming sɛҳuąƖ assault who are not pregnant and within 72 hours of having presented themselves to the hospital.  Lallo would not identify NARAL’s contact at Seton but said that the person is no longer employed at Seton. Lallo said Seton is in compliance with Directive 36 of the Ethical and Religious Health Care Directives for Catholic Care Services issued by the US Conference of Catholic Bishops in 2009 to Catholic hospitals, and with Ascension Healthcare guidelines.  

     The Catholic Church teaches that contraception is illicit for Catholics, but Directive 36 explains that women who are victims of sɛҳuąƖ assault may use methods to prevent the fertilization of an ovum following rape. However, Directive 45 in the same docuмent says that a drug that creates an environment in the uterus, which fertilized ova cannot attach and are thus expelled, would be considered an abortifacient and thereby illicit.

    Lallo said that in the past when rape victims were brought to a Seton emergency room but did not want to transfer to another facility for a forensic exam, they were not given emergency contraception. Now, under the current policy according to Lallo, “emergency contraception can be administered to female patients who have been sɛҳuąƖly assaulted, refused transfer for a [forensic exam] at a neighboring hospital, requested emergency contraception within 72 hours of the assault and are not pregnant, as confirmed by a pregnancy test.”  This new policy squares with the bishops’ directives, Lallo said.

    Is Levonorgestrel an abortifacient?

     Product information for Levonorgestrel claims that it stops the release of an ovum from the ovary and may prevent fertilization or attachment of an ovum to the uterus, which happens if the ovum is fertilized. The inhibition of fertilized ova to be implanted would thus appear to violate Catholic principles about abortion.

     Whether Levonorgestrel is abortive, or merely contraceptive, is still debated in Catholic circles. For example,  John Brehany PhD of the Catholic Medical Association explained to Spero News that he did not have enough information about Levonorgestrel to be able to say whether Catholic healthcare institutions can use it.

     The use of Plan B has been a source of contention between secular authorities and Catholic bishops in the past: In 2007, after legislation was passed in Connecticut mandating that Plan B be made available to rape victims, the Connecticut’s Catholic bishops and hospital administrators declared that “this law is seriously  flawed, but not sufficiently to bar compliance with it at the present time.” However, the bishops cautioned that if it’s discovered that Plan B leads to a chemical abortion, then the “matter would have to be reopened.”

    The USCCB office on pro-life activities directed Spero News to the Catholic Health Association, which then offered an article written in 2010 by Sandra E. Reznik MD PhD to answer questions about Levonorgestrel and the Catholic stance on its use.

     Writing in “Plan B: How it Works,” Dr. Reznik disagrees with Levonorgestrel’s own claims that it can interfere with the implantation of fertilized ova. Reznik wrote that scientific evidence showing that Plan B treatment is completely ineffective after five days is overwhelming:  It works only by preventing fertilization, not by preventing implantation, she wrote.  

     To the contrary, Thomas W. Hilgers MD of the Pope Paul VI Institute for the Study of Human Reproduction, told Spero News that Levonorgestrel indeed has “the potential to be abortive,” and that pregnancy cannot be determined within 72 hours of conception.

    Pregnant, or not?

    Spero News was told by a Seton staff member in Austin, Texas that administering Levonorgestrel would follow “pregnancy tests,” but that this is a decision to be made “by the woman and her physician.”

    Ellen Decareau of Seton’s Communications group spoke to Spero News and specified that whether or not a urinalysis or serum (ovulation) test is used “depends on the situation.” As to whether or not an ovulation test is required, Decareau answered “no.” However, she said if a pregnancy test is performed, Levonorgestrel is offered if the test is negative.

     John Bruchalski MD, a Maryland obstetrician/gynaecologist, told Spero News that the dispute over the use of Levonorgestrel is largely one of semantics. Dr. Bruchalski confirmed that Levonorgestrel can be abortive depending on the point during menstruation or ovulation at which the treatment is provided.
     
    Speaking to Spero News, ethicist John Haas PhD STL of the National Catholic Bioethics Center, said that there is abundant evidence that Levonorgestrel does indeed prevent implantation of fertilized ova.

     Haas said that it is an anovulant (prevents ovulation) and it is not necessary to get into an argument as to whether the drug is abortifacient. What is at issue, he claims, is whether the woman involved has ovulated. If she has, then giving Levonorgestrel is not necessary. An ordinary pregnancy test is not sufficient to assess a woman’s pregnancy status who is requesting emergency contraception, making necessary an additional ovulation test in order to prevent terminating the life of fertilized ova. Giving Levonorgestrel when it is not necessary amounts to “bad medicine,” said Haas. It is only if Levonorgestrel is given before ovulation that it is an anovulant and thus serve as a permissible emergency contraceptive in the Catholic understanding.  Haas said “If Levonorgestrel is given in a Catholic hospital prior to ovulation then it is a morally licit ‘emergency contraception’ following a rape.”

    But pro-life organizations around the country also have not reached a consensus whether Levenorgestrel causes an abortion of a fertilized ovum. Spokesperson Pam Sherstad of Right to Life of Michigan told Spero News that her organization and National Right to Life have no position on contraception in general or on the use of Levonorgestrel. Her group’s research concluded that there is no scientific consensus as to whether or not Levonorgestrel induces abortion.

    Research assistance for this article was provided by Bai Macfarlane of Mary’s Advocates.




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    Catholic hospitals prescribing morning-after pill!
    « Reply #1 on: September 20, 2011, 06:09:30 PM »
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  • And did you really doubt this was coming?  

    The important thing is not to say "it can never happen" - because it can.

    But if we believe it can happen, then we have to admit that the sedevacantist position is possible.


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    « Reply #2 on: September 20, 2011, 06:36:34 PM »
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  • Stevus, have you started enough nugatory threads today?  
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    Catholic hospitals prescribing morning-after pill!
    « Reply #3 on: September 20, 2011, 06:39:23 PM »
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    Stevus, have you started enough nugatory threads today?  


    Did you bust out your thesaurus today to feel intellectual?

    They are only "nugatory" to you and others who have written off the actual Church and chosen to live in fairy-land where you create your own reality.

    For the rest of it, it does matter when Catholic hospitals provide abortifiacient drugs.

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    « Reply #4 on: September 20, 2011, 06:40:57 PM »
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    Stevus, have you started enough nugatory threads today?  


    Did you bust out your thesaurus today to feel intellectual?

    They are only "nugatory" to you and others who have written off the actual Church and chosen to live in fairy-land where you create your own reality.

    For the rest of it, it does matter when Catholic hospitals provide abortifiacient drugs.



    Nice ad hominem, stevus. Digging that hole of yours ever so slowly.


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    « Reply #5 on: September 20, 2011, 08:21:41 PM »
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  • StevusMagnus said:
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    For the rest of it, it does matter when Catholic hospitals provide abortifiacient drugs.


    I know the SSPX / AngelQueen procedure.  Go around and around and around in circles complaining about various problems with Vatican II, but NEVER get to the root of the problem, which is that it's not the real Church.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #6 on: September 20, 2011, 08:24:16 PM »
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    StevusMagnus said:
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    For the rest of it, it does matter when Catholic hospitals provide abortifiacient drugs.


    I know the SSPX / AngelQueen procedure.  Go around and around and around in circles complaining about various problems with Vatican II, but NEVER get to the root of the problem, which is that it's not the real Church.


    If only we could wish all of our problems away like that.

    Facing reality is often a painful ordeal.

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    « Reply #7 on: September 20, 2011, 08:30:24 PM »
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  • Your reality that Christ is a liar and that he appointed a non-Catholic to lead his flock, giving them stones for bread?  

    You're right, I reject that blasphemous fantasy that you call reality.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.


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    « Reply #8 on: September 20, 2011, 09:45:57 PM »
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    Your reality that Christ is a liar and that he appointed a non-Catholic to lead his flock, giving them stones for bread?  

    You're right, I reject that blasphemous fantasy that you call reality.


    No, my reality is that we have had a series of popes who have promulgated novelties and spoke non-infallible garbedly gook capable of a myriad of interpretations and then did not do jack squat to squelch explicit heresies and heretics. They were bad popes. We have had scoundrel popes in the past. Liberius signed an ambigupusly heretical creed.

    The problem is complicated, as easy as it is to just turn these popes words into "obvious" heresy through exageration and deliberate heretical interpretation. The frustrating fact is that these popes skirt the line of formal heresy, but never cross. They are modernists who, by their nature, see contradictions as reconcilable. They have the equivalent of an intellectual mental disorder.

    It is much easier to just say to Hell with it and privately judge them anti-popes but then you'd be no better than a Prot.

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    « Reply #9 on: September 21, 2011, 05:39:40 PM »
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  • A few years ago, the old cardinal archbishop of New York (I don't remember his name) threatened to close every Catholic hospital in New York rather than provide the so-called "family planning services" that was on the verge of being passed as a legal requirement for all New York hospitals by the city or the State.

    His threat was taken seriously and the bill was amended to remove the requirement.  Today, bishops don't even make the threat.  Many times, they don't even remove the association of the Conciliar church from the hospitals.  Many such requirements have been imposed, not by law, but by regulations or by hospital boards of directors.  And it seems that it is more often the hospitals themselves who have begun changing policies rather than government regulators.

    In the face of all this, the bishops fiddle.  This is not an argument in favor of sedevacantism.  It is an argument that the bishops who do not condemn most fervently--to the point of excommunicating hospital boards, staffs, workers (including the janitors), patients, etc.--are very, very bad bishops.

    The fact that most (if not all) of these bishops have indeed defected from the faith and are not even in charge of Catholic Churches just happens to explain a lot.

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    « Reply #10 on: September 21, 2011, 05:47:57 PM »
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    A few years ago, the old cardinal archbishop of New York (I don't remember his name) threatened to close every Catholic hospital in New York rather than provide the so-called "family planning services" that was on the verge of being passed as a legal requirement for all New York hospitals by the city or the State.

    His threat was taken seriously and the bill was amended to remove the requirement.  Today, bishops don't even make the threat.  Many times, they don't even remove the association of the Conciliar church from the hospitals.  Many such requirements have been imposed, not by law, but by regulations or by hospital boards of directors.  And it seems that it is more often the hospitals themselves who have begun changing policies rather than government regulators.

    In the face of all this, the bishops fiddle.  This is not an argument in favor of sedevacantism.  It is an argument that the bishops who do not condemn most fervently--to the point of excommunicating hospital boards, staffs, workers (including the janitors), patients, etc.--are very, very bad bishops.

    The fact that most (if not all) of these bishops have indeed defected from the faith and are not even in charge of Catholic Churches just happens to explain a lot.


    It's incorrect to say it's not an argument for sedevacantism.  The Pope knows what is happening and does not act to condemn these hospitals.  The Pope doesn't need a bishop to excommunicate.  

    Now it's not a proof of sedevacantism, but it is strong evidence for it.  What the alleded popes haven't done for 50 years is overwhelming circuмstantial evidence that they are not Christians and therefore not members of the Church and non-Popes.