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Offline Mark 79

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Re: Catholic Hermits Excommunicated on Christmas Day
« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2019, 12:13:39 AM »
Poche, Nobody here owes you any answers.

You have been publicly docuмented as a willful, habitual liar and blasphemer.

You have not publicly repented all your lies and blasphemy that were condemned by Matthew.

You have not made public reparation for your lies and blasphemy.

You owe us a firm purpose of amendment and reparation.


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3. Claiming Pope Francis did or said something he did not
The truth doesn't need you to "modify", spin, or twist it. State the truth simply and let the chips fall where they may. You never know, it might open your eyes to the truth in other areas as well. Willfully deceiving yourself, or accepting a lie in place of the truth, eventually leads to a complete inability to perceive the truth. In the end, the miserable soul can even worship satan (the father of lies) in place of God (who is Truth).

4. Claiming there is no Crisis in the Church, Pope St. Pius X had basically the same stance on the Jews/тαℓмυd as Pope Francis, etc.
I allow members to deal with the Crisis in the Church according to their own lights, prudence, and conscience. However, denying the Crisis altogether puts you completely outside the Traditional Catholic movement. This is a Traditional Catholic forum. If you want to ask questions of the many well informed and educated Catholics here, be my guest. But you must respect the Traditional Catholic beliefs and position. Even many conservative Novus Ordo Catholics know that Pope Francis is a different kind of Pope (in a bad way) than good old popes like St. Pius X. Even many who choose to say in the Novus Ordo acknowledge there is a huge Crisis in the Church.

5. Failure to acknowledge some actual errors in the modern Catholic Church, for example the post-Vatican II errors on the Jews ("Elder brothers in the Church", "Their covenant is still valid", "They don't need to convert") which is in direct contradiction to pre-Vatican II Popes, including St. Peter: "Therefore let all the house of Israel know most certainly, that God hath made both Lord and Christ, this same Jesus, whom you have crucified. Now when they had heard these things, they had compunction in their heart, and said to Peter, and to the rest of the apostles: What shall we do, men and brethren? But Peter said to them: Do penance, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ, for the remission of your sins: and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. For the promise is to you, and to your children, and to all that are far off, whomsoever the Lord our God shall call. And with very many other words did he testify and exhort them, saying: Save yourselves from this perverse generation." (Acts 2:36-40)


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Re: Catholic Hermits Excommunicated on Christmas Day
« Reply #16 on: December 31, 2019, 05:23:27 AM »
I repent of all of my sins and in whatever way I have offended God. I aks that you pray that God will accept my contrition when I go before him.


Re: Catholic Hermits Excommunicated on Christmas Day
« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2019, 07:34:25 AM »
And, finally, there's no indication in the Declaration that they are even sedevacantists.  They merely say that they are withdrawing from him ... almost along the lines of Father Chazal's sede-impoundism.
It is much more likely that this group would condemn sedevacantists. 

Re: Catholic Hermits Excommunicated on Christmas Day
« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2019, 07:56:17 AM »
As far as it goes, I think it's good to preach the Faith, and condemn all the errors opposed to it, as these hermits did; but as to presumptions and judgments about the Pope's pertinacity, that is really beyond the competence of either laymen or hermits, and falls solely to the Bishops of the Church; who, beside the Pope, are by divine law, the only judges in such matters. One could have submitted a list of the Pope's errors, and given it to the Bishops to judge; trusting that the Holy Ghost would take it from there.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Catholic Hermits Excommunicated on Christmas Day
« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2019, 08:10:33 AM »
As far as it goes, I think it's good to preach the Faith, and condemn all the errors opposed to it, as these hermits did; but as to presumptions and judgments about the Pope's pertinacity, that is really beyond the competence of either laymen or hermits, and falls solely to the Bishops of the Church; who, beside the Pope, are by divine law, the only judges in such matters. One could have submitted a list of the Pope's errors, and given it to the Bishops to judge; trusting that the Holy Ghost would take it from there.

:laugh1:

With the exception of that small handful of Cardinals, these so-called "bishops" (assuming they're even valid) are complicit in the heresies and/or cowards.  Very few of them actually have enough faith to be considered competent "judges in such matters".

Bergoglio has been admonished multiple times about the heresy in Amoris Laetitia and has ignored these admonitions, and doubled down on the heretical interpretation.  There's no doubt but that Bergoglio is a pertinacious heretic.