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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: TKGS on September 14, 2024, 08:01:16 AM

Title: Catholic?
Post by: TKGS on September 14, 2024, 08:01:16 AM
Can one profess the same faith as Jorge Bergoglio and still be Catholic?

At the Interreligious Meeting with Young People at the Catholic Junior College in Singapore on 13 September, Bergoglio told the assembled youth:


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All religions are paths to God. I will use an analogy, they are like different languages that express the divine. But God is for everyone, and therefore, we are all God’s children. “But my God is more important than yours!”. Is this true? There is only one God, and religions are like languages, paths to reach God. Some Sikh, some Muslim, some Hindu, some Christian.



The source is the Vatican Website:  Link (https://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/speeches/2024/september/docuмents/20240913-singapore-giovani.html)
Title: Re: Catholic?
Post by: Michelle on September 14, 2024, 11:37:33 AM
Can one profess the same faith as Jorge Bergoglio and still be Catholic?

At the Interreligious Meeting with Young People at the Catholic Junior College in Singapore on 13 September, Bergoglio told the assembled youth:




The source is the Vatican Website:  Link (https://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/speeches/2024/september/docuмents/20240913-singapore-giovani.html)
Of course not.  And can one send their child for catechism at the local diocese parish and expect them to learn Catholicism?
Title: Re: Catholic?
Post by: Ladislaus on September 14, 2024, 05:10:43 PM
Too bad the Salza/Siscoe/RobertS shills aren't here to claim Jorge never said this or meant it in an orthodox Traditional Catholic sense.

See, the more people defend this type of open heresy (nay, apostasy) as being somehow compatible with the Catholic Faith, the more they damage their own faith and/or their own possession of faith becomes highly suspect.

Anyone who holds that what Jorge said there is not at least objectively heretical can hardly be excused of heresy himself.
Title: Re: Catholic?
Post by: Giovanni Berto on September 14, 2024, 06:15:56 PM
I just happened to be at a SSPX chapel today and saw a picture of Francis and the local bishop at the sacristy.

I had never seen there it before. I felt like throwing up.

Imagine yourself preparing to say mass and looking at the face of this filthy man while you put your vestments. Not a good start.
Title: Re: Catholic?
Post by: brogan on September 14, 2024, 08:13:24 PM
There are reason to believe Francis was not a Catholic even before he took office as pope.
Title: Re: Catholic?
Post by: josh987654321 on September 14, 2024, 09:28:44 PM
Can one profess the same faith as Jorge Bergoglio and still be Catholic?

At the Interreligious Meeting with Young People at the Catholic Junior College in Singapore on 13 September, Bergoglio told the assembled youth:

The source is the Vatican Website:  Link (https://www.vatican.va/content/francesco/en/speeches/2024/september/docuмents/20240913-singapore-giovani.html)

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6FfTxwTX34

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qebfx3M7j_8

St Francis of Assisi Prophecies, Great Schism and Tribulations in the Church (Roman Catholic Imprimatur) - https://www.virgosacrata.com/st-francis-of-assisi-prophecies.html

"Our lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."

God Bless
Title: Re: Catholic?
Post by: josh987654321 on September 14, 2024, 09:46:07 PM
There are reason to believe Francis was not a Catholic even before he took office as pope.

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"Therefore, of the one and only Church there is one body and one head, not two heads like a monster" - Unam Sanctam, Papal Bull 1302

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Title: Re: Catholic?
Post by: brogan on September 15, 2024, 07:25:35 AM
This quote gives some insight into Francis' mind before Rome. He was mad at a woman for converting children.
Title: Re: Catholic?
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on September 15, 2024, 08:38:05 AM
Bergolio proselytizing sodomy.  The visit to USA was about promoting sodomy. 
Title: Re: Catholic?
Post by: Ladislaus on September 15, 2024, 02:56:10 PM
Even Taylor Marshall realizes that this is undeniable heresy.  I would actually say apostasy.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svPTwXew7RE
Title: Re: Catholic?
Post by: josefamenendez on September 15, 2024, 04:26:53 PM
I'm so detached from this evil dude that it doesn't even phase me ... I should pray for him more but I have a habit of not praying for the powers of darkness. This
guy has preternatural powers connected to the whole demonic infrastructure of the JWO- he is a giant тαℓмυdic satanic player-maybe the biggest one on the earth today. I cannot understand how people even have to argue the point or fret over what he has to say.
The best thing a Catholic can do for themselves is to file Francis under Dante's 9th level of Hell with Judas, and let him enjoy, for apparently that's his home.
Title: Re: Catholic?
Post by: Meg on September 15, 2024, 05:44:46 PM
I just happened to be at a SSPX chapel today and saw a picture of Francis and the local bishop at the sacristy.

I had never seen there it before. I felt like throwing up.

Imagine yourself preparing to say mass and looking at the face of this filthy man while you put your vestments. Not a good start.

Well, the SSPX also prays for Pope Francis in the canon of the Mass. That's to be expected, though not all SSPX chapels have a photo of pope Francis on display. 
Title: Re: Catholic?
Post by: MariasAnawim on September 17, 2024, 07:54:50 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXepT4gsupA
Title: Re: Catholic?
Post by: Ladislaus on September 17, 2024, 08:20:40 AM
Alright, Mario ... uhm, so here's the problem.

For those of you (nearly all SVs) who ardently promote "Rewarder God" theory, i.e. that people can be saved by the belief in a God Who rewards the good and punishes evil, and who seek to do the will fo that God can be saved thereby ... you believe the same thing anyway, except that Bergoglio at least had the honesty to admit it.  If these false religions instill belief in such a Rewarder God and encourage people to server this God, then they are in fact ways to salvation, just like Bergoglio said.

I find the intellectual dishonesty to be astonishing ... typical of the SVs on this crucial matter of soteriology.
Title: Re: Catholic?
Post by: JCRev2033 on September 17, 2024, 10:13:20 AM
Pope Francis in 2016 said Jesus is the only door to eternal life: "Speaking at morning Mass at the Santa Marta residence, Pope Francis on Monday urged the faithful not to seek salvation through anyone but Jesus alone, because he is the only way into heaven.  

"The Lord thus clearly says: you cannot enter eternal life by any entryway that is not the door – that is not Jesus," the Pope said during his April 18 homily, according to Vatican Radio's translation."

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/33748/pope-jesus-is-the-only-door-to-eternal-life
Title: Re: Catholic?
Post by: josh987654321 on September 17, 2024, 10:19:39 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JI5nVqTOXvI

The Hermit Pope Who Set The Precedent For Pope Benedict XVI - https://www.npr.org/2013/02/26/172890937/the-hermit-pope-who-set-the-precedent-for-benedict-xvi

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Beneath a glass coffin, wearing a pontiff's miter and faded vestments of gold and purple, there lies a tiny man with a wax head. This represents an Italian priest who, until this month, was the only pope in history to voluntarily resign. His name is Celestine V.
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Experts say there's an important link between Celestine's voluntary resignation and Benedict's. There is evidence that Celestine provided inspiration, and a foundation in religious law, for Benedict's astonishing departure this month.

Let us have a look at this so called 'voluntary resignation' that Pope Benedict XVI used as his precedent.

St Pope Celestine V - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pope_Celestine_V

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The former Celestine, now reverted to Pietro Angelerio, was not allowed to become a hermit once again. Various parties had opposed his resignation and the new Pope Boniface VIII had reason to worry that one of them might install him as an antipope. To prevent this, he ordered Pietro to accompany him to Rome. Pietro escaped and hid in the woods before attempting to return to Sulmona to resume monastic life. This proved impossible, and Pietro was captured after an attempt to flee to Dalmatia was thwarted when a tempest forced his ship to return to port. Boniface imprisoned him in the castle of Fumone near Ferentino in Lazio, attended by two monks of his order, where Pietro died after 10 months at about the age of 81. His supporters spread the allegation that Boniface had treated him harshly and ultimately executed Pietro, but there is no clear historical evidence of this.

"No clear historical evidence of this." LOL

As we all know, nothing says 'voluntary' 'free' or 'fair' quite like arrest and imprisonment by your usurper out of fear... how does anyone still buy this 'resignation' as 'legit' and not only did Pope Benedict XVI have to know of what happened to St Pope Celestine V, but not even St Pope Celestine V tried to retain the name and garments.

"Our Lady of Victory, Ark of the New Covenant, Co-Redemptrix, Mediatrix and Advocate, Pray for us."

God Bless