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Offline Aleksandar

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Re: Carmelite Convents recommendation ?
« Reply #15 on: March 21, 2025, 07:51:11 AM »
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  • I was wondering if anyone could recommend a Carmelite Convent for receiving prayer intention stipends?

    I'm looking for traditional Catholic Carmelites, receiving pre Vatican II Sacraments. A convent that is not open to an accord with newRome.

    Does such a Carmelite order exist?
    Thanks for your help... this is obviously a touchy subject.

    The Carmelite sisters of the Holy Face in Ireland are great. They meet all your requirements, they even have a letter of support from bishop Vigano on their page.
    https://carmelitesholyface.com/

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    Re: Carmelite Convents recommendation ?
    « Reply #16 on: March 21, 2025, 12:10:01 PM »
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  • The Carmelite sisters of the Holy Face in Ireland are great. They meet all your requirements, they even have a letter of support from bishop Vigano on their page.
    https://carmelitesholyface.com/
    These few nuns have prayed, suffered, and built so much in Ireland. They got courage too!



    You can glance Timestamp 6: 20, and other times too!

    Simply awe-inspiring...gardens,  farm, and they sell specialty cards for religious events.

    BTW Fr. Ballini, at that point,  Time Stsmp :12:10 gave a remarkable sermon near the end of the video, in which he famously declared:" We don't have a right to publicly worship God, we have  a D U T Y !!!" ...Be ready to die for the True Mass.
    Have a holy Lent.

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    Re: Carmelite Convents recommendation ?
    « Reply #18 on: March 21, 2025, 08:58:14 PM »
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  • These few nuns have prayed, suffered, and built so much in Ireland. They got courage too!



    You can glance Timestamp 6: 20, and other times too!

    Simply awe-inspiring...gardens,  farm, and they sell specialty cards for religious events.

    BTW Fr. Ballini, at that point,  Time Stamp :12:10 gave a remarkable sermon near the end of the video, in which he famously declared:" We don't have a right to publicly worship God, we have  a D U T Y !!!" ...Be ready to die for the True Mass.
    Have a holy Lent.

    Thank you so much for this video!  

    This Rosary procession, the Priest and Carmelites the faithful and pious altar servers.

    Flat-out beautiful! 
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Carmelite Convents recommendation ?
    « Reply #19 on: March 22, 2025, 07:39:49 AM »
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  • Just to be clear, if Bp Scarpone was consecrated by Paul VI, then the N.O. consecration rite was used, not the Roman Traditional rite, correct?

    However, if so, any doubtfulness would be resolved by the fact that it was the highest authority, the Pope, and we know Paul IV's intent was the intent of the Church... correct?  [sedevacantists' position on Paul IV's standing as a true Pope notwithstanding]

    And... the bigger problems of lack of proper intent were isolated at that time to the whackiest heretics like Rahner, et al, but we're pretty sure Paul VI didn't have a heretical understanding of what a priest is/does...correct?

    The bigger problems arise about a decade later when the heretics' ideas about the priesthood/Eucharist really caught fire with the Bernardins, Weaklands, Hunthousens.... am I right?

    I.e. the doubtfulness is circuмscribed in the early years and grows in the later years, like NOW, when it it the wild wild west...correct?

    So, are the the Servants...okay?



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    Re: Carmelite Convents recommendation ?
    « Reply #20 on: March 22, 2025, 08:01:36 AM »
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  • Just to be clear, if Bp Scarpone was consecrated by Paul VI, then the N.O. consecration rite was used, not the Roman Traditional rite, correct?

    However, if so, any doubtfulness would be resolved by the fact that it was the highest authority, the Pope, and we know Paul IV's intent was the intent of the Church... correct?  [sedevacantists' position on Paul IV's standing as a true Pope notwithstanding]

    And... the bigger problems of lack of proper intent were isolated at that time to the whackiest heretics like Rahner, et al, but we're pretty sure Paul VI didn't have a heretical understanding of what a priest is/does...correct?

    The bigger problems arise about a decade later when the heretics' ideas about the priesthood/Eucharist really caught fire with the Bernardins, Weaklands, Hunthousens.... am I right?

    I.e. the doubtfulness is circuмscribed in the early years and grows in the later years, like NOW, when it it the wild wild west...correct?

    So, are the the Servants...okay?
    Disregard the above...

    Even assuming all the above and that Scarpone used the Traditional Rite for priestly ordinations... other UNKNOWN bishops were also apparently used...
    ...so they are in a doubtful situation, better turn to the +ABL Carmelites referred to in this thread.

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    Re: Carmelite Convents recommendation ?
    « Reply #21 on: March 22, 2025, 04:36:52 PM »
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  • I recommend the Carmelites of the Holy Face in Ireland. 
    They look to Archbishop Vigano. They attend Mass at the Resistance priory or with visiting priests who are traditionally ordained. 
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    Re: Carmelite Convents recommendation ?
    « Reply #22 on: March 22, 2025, 07:41:24 PM »
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  • I recommend the Carmelites of the Holy Face in Ireland.
    They look to Archbishop Vigano. They attend Mass at the Resistance priory or with visiting priests who are traditionally ordained.
    Can you give us a little more information about the priests, EliasMair?
    Apparently the local Resistance priests will not offer Mass in the convent.
    I emailed Mother Irene asking for details but received no reply. I don't know why these matters should be kept secret. In these times of crisis, Catholics need to know that their priests have valid orders, in particular if they have children who are considering a religious vocation.
    Who are the priests, and who validated their orders? Are they sedevacantist priests (which is the impression I received in the past)?
    It is apparent that Mother Irene is sedevacantist from the way she talks about Pope Francis.

    The concerns I have about the Carmelites of the Holy Face in Ireland are:
    1. They do not appear to have been established under the authority of a bishop
    2. The priests they use are unknown in the Resistance and are not introduced to us with an explanation of where they came from and evidence of their valid Orders.
    3. They appear to be now sedevacantist

    These matters are all concerning for those of us in the Resistance who want to continue in the line of Archbishop Lefebvre.