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Offline Yeti

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Re: Cardinals Burke and Sarah - Strong message to Pope Leo XIV, July, 2026
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2026, 12:29:34 AM »
https://lesalonbeige.fr/les-cardinaux-robert-sarah-et-raymond-burke-appellent-le-pape-leon-xiv-a-intervenir/

AI Translation . Unofficial
Cardinals Robert Sarah and Raymond Burke call on Pope Leo XIV to speak
By Michel Janva the 29 July 2026

  In recent days, Cardinals Robert Sarah and Raymond Burke have made public their analyses of the current needs of the Church, calling on Pope Leo XIV to intervene. This is not the first time that the two cardinals have spoken about the situation and the future of the Church, but this time the urgency was palpable, accompanied by an implicit observation: progress on some important issues is too slow. If some problems are not resolved, the underlying processes will continue and any heading correction will become impossible. By these two interventions, it is as if the two cardinals had invited the Pope to say “That is enough! "

  In an interview with College  of Cardinals Report  on June 28, Cardinal Burke said: “We must insist that this process of synodality be halted” and called for “a very serious study on the whole issue, because it is about the very life of the Church and the salvation of souls.” Burke had already expressed his opposition to the new synodality, but this recent call is much more insistent. ...synod docuмents themselves recognize, namely that the new synodality has no theological basis but constitutes an experience: “There is no definition of synodality. It has no history in the church. The synodal process aims instead to bring out the notion of synodality from the synodal practice itself.

  During this new pontificate, the process initiated by Francis continued unhindered: the last two consistories adopted the form, the report of Group 9 to the synod emphasized where the new synodal practice leads, and Fiducia supplicans, one of the most harmful fruits of this new synodality, was in fact confirmed by the fallacious distinction: formal blessings no, informal blessings yes.

  Cardinal Robert Sarah also had harsh words for the new synodality... interview with Diane Montagna on July 16. According to him, synodality is not present in the tradition of the Church; its meaning is misunderstood; indeed, the Synod of Bishops has always been prevented from turning into an assembly, as seems to be the case today. Like Burke, he argues that there is no definition of synodality and that the word itself is untranslatable in many African languages, not least because defining it as a " Functioning Church ” is meaningless; the Church is, in fact, missionary.


  Cardinal Sarah also asked Leo to personally examine the synod, not to allow its dissemination in dioceses around the world without a thorough examination, to clarify the Church’s position on h0mosexuαlity and to avoid reproducing the damage caused by the publication of Fiducia supplicans.

  The cardinal was very harsh in his remarks regarding the Pachamama, which remained on display throughout the Synod on the Amazon in 2019. He wondered why an image of the Virgin revered in Latin America, such as Our Lady of Guadalupe, had not been chosen. In his place, he said, “they brought an Inca idol” that entered St. Peter’s Basilica and was brought in procession to the Paul VI Hall. Hence the demand to preserve the Church from any pagan infiltration, whether it comes from primitive religions or from developed Western cultures that envision a democratic synodality.

  In short, the two cardinals asked the Pope to say “That is enough! From the new synodality, to Catholic h0mosexuαlity, to Fiducia supplicans, and even to Traditionis custodes, which Sarah hopes to see cancelled or at least silenced and rendered harmless.

  If we examine even for a brief moment the events that occurred in the Church during the same period as the two interventions that we have just mentioned, it must be noted that a “That is enough! » is more than necessary.

    • Bishop Erio Castellucci, Bishop of Modena, proposes that a woman preside over the Liturgy of the Word during the Mass;
    • The Bishop of Brussels, on behalf of the Bishops of Belgium, pleads for the ordination of married priests;
    • Father James Martin asks that a hom0sexuαl be ordained a priest as well.
    • Cardinal Timothy Radcliffe presides over a religious celebration for the birthday of a sαme-sex couple.
    • In Los Angeles, a “Misa Azteca” with pagan dances was organized;
    • San Diego Cathedral celebrates a “open to all” mass on LGBT issues.
    • Christian Würtz, a supporter of the German synodal process and the blessing of same-sex couples in the church, is appointed bishop of Eichstätt;
    • Vatican News approves artificial insemination
    • The Osservatore Romano denies the original sin and the existence of Satan. *
    • Cardinal Mauro Gambetti inaugurates a restaurant-bistro on the terrace of St. Peter's Basilica.

We can easily understand the urgency of the peremptory interventions of Burke and Sarah.
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https://lesalonbeige.fr/une-theologienne-nie-le-peche-originel-et-lexistence-du-diable-dans-losservatore-romano/

AI translation; unofficial.

"...as the article in question seems to suggest.
  Marinella Perroni was for ten years president of the Coordination of Italian theologians, specialist in “gender studies”, feminist versions, in what was formerly called Sacred Scripture. She affirms quietly:

  "... In the ancient biblical myth commonly called the Fall, there is no devil, no divine power to which human beings are subject. The narrative speaks only of the “contradiction” that “being of God, being chosen by God, does not mean being like God. And this is where the inexhaustible tension between humanity and the divine lies – there is no sin."

  And there can be no sin since the biblical narrative is the first feminist theological discourse, about the desire to be like God:
“It is quite beautiful to see that, in Eden, the woman assumes the role of the woman who has the courage to engage in this desire, to claim the right and to discuss its limits, in order to help define this impassable border that separates humans from God, without any possibility of negotiation. "

  The problem is that if there is no sin there is no redemptive incarnation either.
It is written in the Vatican’s official newspaper...."
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I wouldn't pay any attention to this "strong message". All those clowns have to do is say they are putting Leo on notice for heresy, and if he doesn't profess the Catholic Faith immediately, they will pronounce him as having lose his office due to heresy, and proceed to elect a Catholic. Until they do that, this stuff is all just fun and games. ::)

Re: 91 Monasteries close in France in 20 years, but Trad Latin monks survive
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2026, 07:57:30 AM »
Related:
Here's a consoling fact for you: 91 monasteries have closed in France in the last 20 years, and this tiny headline  does prove one thing about Tradition...

https://lesalonbeige.fr/en-20-ans-91-monasteres-ont-ferme-aucun-chez-ceux-dont-loffice-est-exclusivement-en-latin/
AI Translation:
The Church in France  - In 20 years, 91 monasteries have closed, none among those whose office is exclusively in Latin.

Michel Janva July 22, 2026... Over the last 20 years, nearly a third of monasteries (around 30%) have closed. And it's accelerating: until 2015, there were around fewer than four closures per year. The average figure today is around ten per year.
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Like it or not, like you mention, there is still a root of Faith in the Modern church, but Modernism is a disease and is contagious...
N.Ordo faithful should instruct themselves about the four quasi -heretical docuмents of Vatican II:
  Decree on Ecuмenism, Unitatis Redintegratio; 
      Decree on the Church, Lumen Gentium;
          Decree on Non-Christian Religions, Nostra Aetate; 
              Declaration on Religious Liberty, Dignitatis Humanae;
-  about the real definition of Mass, and morality (modesty in dress).

Plus all the sacraments were altered.

Pray.
Yes, good points. This is why I'm an Indult Traditionalist, not a Novus Ordo Conservative. I hold Fr. Chad Ripperger's position that the TLM is "objectively superior" to the NOM. But both are valid Masses and give grace to good Catholics who receive them with good dispositions. Even Vatican II itself says Gregorian Chant should be retained and should have pride of place in the Sacred Liturgy. So yes, there are issues. But while all this justify being a traditionalist from within the Church, they don't seem to justify the more extreme position that the new rites are sinful, rather than just deficient i.e. giving less grace. Anyway, at least you have some justification of your claims. Regarding Ecuмenism, would you disagree that e.g. the Anglican Ordinariate has been good for the Catholic Church? Anglican ministers (1) accept and profess the Catholic faith, and the Catechism of the Catholic Church, and (2) receive valid ordination from Roman Catholic bishops. That's a good instance of true ecuмenism. So not all ecuмenism is bad, but only false ecuмenism. As for religious liberty, while there are issues there as well, Pope Saint John Paul II used religious liberty to bring about the downfall of Communism in the USSR/Soviet Union. Many trads do not know this, but most Catholics do know it, and even many secular historians admit it openly. 

There are still 600,000 Catholic Nuns, 400,000 Catholic Priests, some 100,000 Catholic Seminarians offering prayers and sacrifices to Almighty God throughout the Catholic/Universal Church every second of every day. The false idea/opinion/doctrine that we need to separate from such a Church is nothing short of schismatic and sinful. 


Re: Cardinals Burke and Sarah - Strong message to Pope Leo XIV, July, 2026
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2026, 07:59:29 AM »
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I wouldn't pay any attention to this "strong message". All those clowns have to do is say they are putting Leo on notice for heresy, and if he doesn't profess the Catholic Faith immediately, they will pronounce him as having lose his office due to heresy, and proceed to elect a Catholic. Until they do that, this stuff is all just fun and games. ::)
The universal acceptance of Pope Leo XIV confirms he is a valid Pope. Since Jesus Christ Our Lord and God prayed for the faith of Peter to never fail, and since Christ's prayer cannot fail, then as Vatican I confirms, and as Saint Alphonsus says, we ought piously to believe and rightly to presume, that God will never allow it to happen, that a Roman Pontiff, even as a private person, becomes a manifest heretic. It is just a theory. Sedes need to catch up to reality. 

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Re: Cardinals Burke and Sarah - Strong message to Pope Leo XIV, July, 2026
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2026, 08:05:57 AM »
Cardinals Burke and Sarah say the new mass just like Bp Schneider. They're right there in the pit of snakes in a so called "conservative camp". If they really understand the crisis, why don't they reject 100% of the errors? Just like in the Archbishop's time, some other bishops raised a voice at first, but then all fell silent under "obedience to the pope before all else". Fr Pfeiffer gave a sermon way back I remember "there's a conservative neighborhood down in hell and there's a liberal one, theres a republican neighborhood and a democratic neighborhood, there's a traditional Catholic neighborhood too - all are welcome, none are excluded." Bishops should tremble and be very afraid of God's wrath in these dark times, and if they comply and go along with the Christ-killers in Rome today, woe to them. They were entrusted with the flock and they will be responsible for the example they give to the faithful. You can't have a foot in each boat - Our Lord says you are lukewarm and He will vomit you out. 

Re: Cardinals Burke and Sarah - Strong message to Pope Leo XIV, July, 2026
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2026, 08:20:39 AM »
Cardinals Burke and Sarah say the new mass just like Bp Schneider. They're right there in the pit of snakes in a so called "conservative camp". If they really understand the crisis, why don't they reject 100% of the errors? Just like in the Archbishop's time, some other bishops raised a voice at first, but then all fell silent under "obedience to the pope before all else". Fr Pfeiffer gave a sermon way back I remember "there's a conservative neighborhood down in hell and there's a liberal one, theres a republican neighborhood and a democratic neighborhood, there's a traditional Catholic neighborhood too - all are welcome, none are excluded." Bishops should tremble and be very afraid of God's wrath in these dark times, and if they comply and go along with the Christ-killers in Rome today, woe to them. They were entrusted with the flock and they will be responsible for the example they give to the faithful. You can't have a foot in each boat - Our Lord says you are lukewarm and He will vomit you out.
Because r&r traditionalism is in fact a wrong position, the Magisterium of the Church rightly rejects it.

Only Indult traditionalism is the correct position. Cardinals +Burke and +Sarah embrace true Tradition.

They embrace Tradition cuм Petro et sub Petro, in the Church and for the Church, not apart from the Church, and against the Church. Name some alleged errors or heresies taught universally (something not even possible, if you have the Catholic faith, since the ordinary universal Magisterium of the Church is infallible) by the Church's Magisterium. The main issue with r&r (as opposed to indult) is it denies the indefectiblity of the Church's Magisterium

PS: Sedevacantism, in the meanwhile, is an outright Heresy that denies the Church's Magisterium altogether.

"Wathenism", rejected by Archbishop Lefebvre himself in the early years, the opinion that the NOM is supposedly sinful, is yet another error and heresy that denies the Indefectibility of the Church. Archbishop Lefebvre said Wathenism was "promoting Atheism" as Roman Catholics would stop being Catholics if he encouraged them to stop assisting at Mass in their local Parishes. The true opinion on this matter is taught by Fr. Chad Ripperger. The NOM is valid, and gives grace to Good Catholics, but the TLM is objectively superior, and merits more grace for the Church.