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Offline donkath

Cardinal Zen accepts Vat.II
« on: August 24, 2020, 10:29:07 PM »
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Offline trad123

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Re: Cardinal Zen accepts Vat.II
« Reply #1 on: August 24, 2020, 11:01:40 PM »
Back in June:

https://oldyosef.hkdavc.com/?p=1503


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The fruit of Vatican II are those 16 Docuмents, especially the 4 Constitutions. Through those docuмents you hear the real voice of the Holy Spirit.

(. . .)

The extreme conservatives say: the Church after the Vatican II is no more the Catholic Church I received baptism in.


But you were baptized in a Church which believes in one apostolic Church, led by the Pope and the Bishops as authentic teachers of faith.

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Offline donkath

Re: Cardinal Zen accepts Vat.II
« Reply #2 on: August 24, 2020, 11:34:53 PM »
Cardinal Zen, a magnificent fighter for the Church in China is also a great admirer of Benedict XVI.   
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Offline Nadir

Re: Cardinal Zen accepts Vat.II
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2020, 06:13:45 AM »
Card Zen is so obviously a good and sincere man. One wonders if he must have been so taken up with China troubles that he has never had the opportunity to really investigate and discover the shenanigans that he seems to believe are somehow the workings of the Holy Spirit.

Fascinating to read what he has to say about post war Italy, but really post-war Rome. I wonder how informed he is of the assassination of priests in Italy in those years.

Interesting that he escaped the horrors of communism in China, and that he is so uncritical of the dirty politics involved in the silencing of any criticism of Communism.

May God open his eyes, let us pray.
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Cardinal Zen accepts Vat.II
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2020, 07:54:09 AM »
Quote from: Nadir on August 25, 2020, 06:13:45 AM
Card Zen is so obviously a good and sincere man. One wonders if he must have been so taken up with China troubles that he has never had the opportunity to really investigate and discover the shenanigans that he seems to believe are somehow the workings of the Holy Spirit.

He basically said as much:
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I have not studied Vatican II as deeply as Professor De Mattei, but from my simple faith (not naïve, not acritical), I maintain that the teachings of the Ecuмenical Councils are supremely authoritative, and I cannot think that a part of it will end up one day “in the rubbish bin” (I think that in this Cardinal Brandmüller agrees with me).

He's basing his opinion merely on the assumption that V2 is a valid Ecuмenical Council and that the teachings of such a Council cannot simply be rejected.  He probably can't fathom the sedevacantist hypothesis.
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