I can see now what you mean. Please excuse my own lack of comprehension and reading abilities, and I certainly did not want to be offensive.

The facts you stated are certainly right (besides the comment on point 5, I would think). If this makes him a great Saint I do not know -some actually say that- but certainly a great statesman.

Personally I strongly disagree with the "Rampollian policy" during the Pontificate of Papa´s Pecci, della Chiesa and the following Pontiffs, and certainly much more so than Don Ricossa, who is also not a exactly a Cardinal Rampolla fan.
Still, I think it is a legitimate opinion to think otherwise.

My main point is, though, that a personal attack on Rampolla is not necessary to argue about the policies of the Holy See during those years. It just brings it down to a level, on which civilized and Christian people should not argue.
Therefore, I am glad that Ricossa brought this subject up - despite the internal "anti-freemasonic" secret police of traditionalism.

Neither I nor anyone else i am aware of has referred to him as a 'great saint'-- although a I would not be surprised if  canonisation process is undertaken at some point.

Thanks though for at least having a discussion about this.

What exactly is there about Rampollan policy that U object to?

Neither I nor anyone else i am aware of has referred to him as a 'great saint'-- although a I would not be surprised if  canonisation process is undertaken at some point.

What exactly is there about Rampollan policy that U object to?

In a Benedict XV. biography I once read he was referred as being a saintly person, many people even being struck by the great devotion of his during celebrating Mass.

The policy I object to is the conciliatory attitude towards the French Republic in particular and liberals as well as modernists in general. This is not only a mark of Rampolla himself but his whole "school of thought", mainly trained in the diplomatic corps, which then had great influence for some reasons.

You probably disagree with this statement. If you bring forth that the Popes knew and agreed to Rampolla´s doings, I would concede the validity of this argumentation. For the sake of logic, I´d have to criticize the very Pontiffs - which I indeed do.
The latter thing Ricossa is not quite ready to do, and in this I differ in opinion with him.

If you personally agree with a reconciliation with the French Republic or Liberals in general, of course I cannot object to your reasoning. It is also true that the "Rampolla-Popes" where not the first one who took a similar stance, the most renown may be Pius´ VII. attitude towards the French Revolution, Bonaparte and the following schism among Catholics.

But just some quotes from the text you gave:

We have already seen what was in 1913, certainly not flattering opinion the Archbishop Cardinal Rampolla by Benigni Tindaro. We know that, in turn, Cardinal Gasparri had a low opinion of Msgr. Benigni and Sodalitium pianum, to the extent that the Secretary of State to Benedict XV and Pius XI testified against the canonization of Pope St. Pius X because Pope Sarto had encouraged and supported this association and, in general, the purely Catholic positions.

"Between the modernists and anti-modernist, there was a 'third party' by Cardinal Mariano Rampolla del Tindaro ( ... ). Rampolla, in 1901, chose as his collaborators Mgr. Giacomo Della Chiesa, and Msgr. Pietro Gasparri. ( ... ) Pius X, having appointed Cardinal Merry del Val Secretary of State, had removed from the secretariat of state both of Cardinal Rampolla's proteges [which, surprisingly, were later granted the Purple]

[...]that the election of Cardinal Della Chiesa was intended to be an indication of a church government that was the perfect antithesis of the regime of Pius X', Four months after the death of Pius X, Msgr. Eudoxe Mignot (18421918), Archbishop of Albi, sent to Cardinal Ferrata, first secretary of state of the newly elected Pope Benedict Xv, a Memoriale in which he harshly attacked the movement of antimodernist reaction promoted by St. Pius X and asked the Holy See for a policy of 'reconciliation' with the modernists. On October 13, 1914, appointing, after Cardinal Ferrata, Cardinal Pietro Gasparri his Secretary of State, Benedict XV showed determination to change ~the orienta~ of the pontificate plan, returning to the line of 'Rampollian' government abandoned, by St. Pius X. Benedict XV, in agreement with Cardinal Gasparri, dismantled the Sodalitium pianum and held out his hand, unsuccessfully, to Buonaiuti".

Of course, I´d have to go into more detail for Rampolla´s policies as Secretary of State. But indeed, the Church was hugely affected by liberalists already in the end of the 19th century. Particularly the "easy going" Pontificate of Leo XIII. made their advance into the ranks of Prelates and (seminary) professors possible. Being forced to crawl under the carpet during the reign of Pius X., they were restored to their former "glory" by Benedict XV. practically immediately after the death of the Saint-Pope.
Known anti-modernists, on the other side (like the cited Msgr. Begnini), were persecuted.  

God has willed it that I come into possesion of this docuмent-- enjoy.

Please post the text, if it is in English. I can't open the doc in the linked format.

My computer won't open the doc for some reason. Are you able to post the text here?

If you have already posted the text on this forum, can you please just point me to it, or repost it in this thread? That way if there are any others who are having the same tech problem as me, they will also be able to see the text.

RC, the docuмent has many markings which hinders the copying of the text itself.

You need Adobe Acrobat Reader to open the file.
http://get.adobe.com/reader/

Hey RC, nice to see you again buddy!