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« on: February 01, 2013, 09:59:23 AM »
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  • Cardinal Mahony removed from public church duties



    Los Angeles Archbishop Jose Gomez  on Thursday announced dramatic actions in response to the priest abuse scandal, saying that Cardinal Roger Mahony would no longer perform public duties in the church and that Santa Barbara Bishop Thomas J. Curry has stepped down.

    Gomez said in a statement that Mahony -- who led the L.A. archdiocese from 1985 to 2011 -- "will no longer have any administrative or public duties."

    Gomez also announced the church has released a trove of confidential church files detailing how the Los Angeles archdiocese dealt with priests accused of molestation.

    Gomez wrote in a letter to parishioners that the files would be disturbing to read.

    "I find these files to be brutal and painful reading. The behavior described in these files is terribly sad and evil. There is no excuse, no explaining away what happened to these children. The priests involved had the duty to be their spiritual fathers and they failed," he wrote. "We need to acknowledge that terrible failure today."

    Gomez's statement came a week after the release of internal Catholic church records. The records showed 15 years before the clergy sex abuse scandal came to light, Mahony and Curry discussed ways to conceal the molestation of children from law enforcement. Those records represent just a fraction of the files the church released Thursday. The Times is now reviewing those files.

    DOcuмENT: Los Angeles Archdiocese priest abuse files

    The records released last week offer the strongest evidence yet of a concerted effort by officials in the nation's largest Catholic diocese to shield abusers from police. The newly released records, which the archdiocese fought for years to keep secret, reveal in church leaders' own words a desire to keep authorities from discovering that children were being molested.

    The records contain memos written in 1986 and 1987 by Mahony and Curry, then the archdiocese's chief advisor on sex abuse cases. In the confidential letters, Curry proposed strategies to prevent police from investigating three priests who had admitted to church officials that they had abused young boys.

    Curry suggested to Mahony that they prevent the priests from seeing therapists who might alert authorities and that they give the priests out-of-state assignments to avoid criminal investigators. Mahony, who retired in 2011, has apologized repeatedly for errors in handling abuse allegations.

    Gomez's letter detailed changes in the status of Curry and Mahony in the church.

    "Effective immediately, I have informed Cardinal Mahony that he will no longer have any administrative or public duties. Auxiliary Bishop Thomas Curry has also publicly apologized for his decisions while serving as Vicar for Clergy. I have accepted his request to be relieved of his responsibility as the Regional Bishop of Santa Barbara,” Gomez wrote in a letter.

    [Updated at 9:44 p.m.: An archdiocese spokesman, Tod Tamberg, said that beyond cancelling his confirmation schedule, Mahony's day-to-day life as a retired priest would be largely unchanged. He resides at a North Hollywood parish, and Tamberg said he would remain a “priest in good standing” and continue to celebrate Mass there.]

    The records were released hours after a judge signed an order requiring the church to do so.

    In a written order, Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Emilie H. Elias gave the church a Feb. 22 deadline to turn over about 30,000 pages of internal memos, psychiatric reports, Vatican correspondence and other docuмents.

    “Let’s just get it done,” Elias said in court Thursday.

    Her order brought to a close five and a half years of legal wrangling and delays and set the stage for a raft of new and almost certainly embarrassing revelations about the church’s handling of pedophile priests.


    The files Elias ordered released are the final piece of a landmark 2007 settlement between the archdiocese and about 500 people who said clergy abused them. As part of that $660-million settlement, the archdiocese agreed to hand over the personnel files of accused abusers. Victims said the files would provide accountability for church leaders who let pedophiles remain in the ministry; law enforcement officials said the records would be important investigative tools.

    But the release was delayed for years by appeals and the painstaking process of reading and redacting 89 files, some hundreds of pages long. A private mediator in 2011 ordered the church to black out the names of victims and archdiocese employees not accused of abuse, saying he wanted to avoid “guilt by association.”

    Earlier this month, at the urging of the Los Angeles Times and the Associated Press, Elias ordered the names restored, saying the public had a right to know what Mahony and others in charge did about abuse. The church complained about the cost of restoring the redactions and suggested to the judge earlier this week that generic cover sheets for the files listing top officials and their dates of service should suffice.

    After criticism from attorneys for the victims and the media, the church abandoned that plan and its lawyers said in court Thursday “anybody in a supervisory role” would be named in the docuмents. Elias’ order specified that the names of the archbishop, the vicar who handled clergy abuse, bishops and the heads of Catholic treatment centers for pedophiles be included.

    Here is Gomez's full letter:

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    My brothers and sisters in Christ,

    This week we are releasing the files of priests who sɛҳuąƖly abused children while they were serving in the Archdiocese of Los Angeles.

    These files docuмent abuses that happened decades ago. But that does not make them less serious.


    I find these files to be brutal and painful reading. The behavior described in these files is terribly sad and evil. There is no excuse, no explaining away what happened to these children. The priests involved had the duty to be their spiritual fathers and they failed.

    We need to acknowledge that terrible failure today. We need to pray for everyone who has ever been hurt by members of the Church. And we need to continue to support the long and painful process of healing their wounds and restoring the trust that was broken.

    I cannot undo the failings of the past that we find in these pages. Reading these files, reflecting on the wounds that were caused, has been the saddest experience I’ve had since becoming your Archbishop in 2011.

    My predecessor, retired Cardinal Roger Mahony, has expressed his sorrow for his failure to fully protect young people entrusted to his care. Effective immediately, I have informed Cardinal Mahony that he will no longer have any administrative or public duties. Auxiliary Bishop Thomas Curry has also publicly apologized for his decisions while serving as Vicar for Clergy. I have accepted his request to be relieved of his responsibility as the Regional Bishop of Santa Barbara.

    To every victim of child sɛҳuąƖ abuse by a member of our Church: I want to help you in your healing. I am profoundly sorry for these sins against you.

    To every Catholic in the Archdiocese of Los Angeles, I want you to know: We will continue, as we have for many years now, to immediately report every credible allegation of abuse to law enforcement authorities and to remove those credibly accused from ministry. We will continue to work, every day, to make sure that our children are safe and loved and cared for in our parishes, schools and in every ministry in the Archdiocese.

    In the weeks ahead, I will address all of these matters in greater detail. Today is a time for prayer and reflection and deep compassion for the victims of child sɛҳuąƖ abuse.

    I entrust all of us and our children and families to the tender care and protection of our Blessed Mother Mary, Our Lady of Guadalupe and Our Lady of the Angels.

    Sincerely yours in Christ,


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    « Reply #1 on: February 01, 2013, 10:54:47 AM »
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  • Mahoney should have been punished long ago for his liturgical abuses.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #2 on: February 01, 2013, 11:49:13 AM »
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  • Next. Criminal prosecutions for these WOLVES!

                        Tantum Aude!

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    « Reply #3 on: February 01, 2013, 12:36:25 PM »
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  • I was reading about this on another news site, they referenced http://www.bishop-accountability.org so I was looking around that site as well. It's only the tip of the iceberg but it gives some idea of the scope of the infiltrators. Sad, very sad.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    « Reply #4 on: February 02, 2013, 06:26:14 PM »
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  • It is a very good thing that evil man Mahoney has gone.
    Francis is an Antipope. Pray that God will grant us a good Pope and save the Church.
    I abjure and retract my schismatic support of the evil CMRI.Thuc condemned the Thuc nonbishops
    "Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to the authority of the Roman Pontiff"-Pope Boniface VIII.
    If you think Francis is Pope,do you treat him like an Antipope?
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    « Reply #5 on: February 02, 2013, 09:40:53 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sede Catholic
    It is a very good thing that evil man Mahoney has gone.


    Agreed. That man should have been gone a LONG time ago.

    Cardinal Baloney is an embarassment (credit to stevusmagnus for coining that name).
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #6 on: February 02, 2013, 11:39:21 PM »
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  • Yes. Mahoney is a heretic.
    Francis is an Antipope. Pray that God will grant us a good Pope and save the Church.
    I abjure and retract my schismatic support of the evil CMRI.Thuc condemned the Thuc nonbishops
    "Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to the authority of the Roman Pontiff"-Pope Boniface VIII.
    If you think Francis is Pope,do you treat him like an Antipope?
    Pastor Aeternus, and the Council of Trent Sessions XXIII and XXIV

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    « Reply #7 on: February 03, 2013, 01:32:33 AM »
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  • Quote from: ServusSpiritusSancti
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    It is a very good thing that evil man Mahoney has gone.


    Agreed. That man should have been gone a LONG time ago.

    ...


    I agree with that.










    Francis is an Antipope. Pray that God will grant us a good Pope and save the Church.
    I abjure and retract my schismatic support of the evil CMRI.Thuc condemned the Thuc nonbishops
    "Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to the authority of the Roman Pontiff"-Pope Boniface VIII.
    If you think Francis is Pope,do you treat him like an Antipope?
    Pastor Aeternus, and the Council of Trent Sessions XXIII and XXIV


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    « Reply #8 on: February 04, 2013, 12:24:01 AM »
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  • You can't get rid of them, no matter how hard you try!

    February 1, 2013 release: :surprised:

    http://www.la-archdiocese.org/org/media/Press%20Releases/2013-0201_Clarification-EN.pdf
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    « Reply #9 on: February 04, 2013, 01:19:52 AM »
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  • Quote from: Mary Therese
    You can't get rid of them, no matter how hard you try!

    February 1, 2013 release: :surprised:

    http://www.la-archdiocese.org/org/media/Press%20Releases/2013-0201_Clarification-EN.pdf


    Cardinal Mahony was once one of the most powerful men in the US Mainstream Church. You just cannot expect a figure like him to go down quietly and without a fight.

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    « Reply #10 on: February 04, 2013, 04:04:18 PM »
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  • He is every bad thing everyone on this thread has said he is.  This is a small step in the right direction.  As SSS says above, he should have been removed for his liturgical abuses alone, even if there was nothing else.  His years of protecting and excusing child rape and shielding the rapists from justice should land him in jail.  Ecclesiastical justice will not be done until he is stripped of his red hat and suspended from every priestly or episcopal function.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #11 on: February 04, 2013, 05:24:12 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    He is every bad thing everyone on this thread has said he is.  This is a small step in the right direction.  As SSS says above, he should have been removed for his liturgical abuses alone, even if there was nothing else.  His years of protecting and excusing child rape and shielding the rapists from justice should land him in jail.  Ecclesiastical justice will not be done until he is stripped of his red hat and suspended from every priestly or episcopal function.


    Agreed.

    Problem is, he is only one of many, if not all the cardinals *and* bishops. Not a one of them can be trusted with the faith - that much they've all proven.

    He is still in full communion though.  :facepalm:

    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

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    « Reply #12 on: February 05, 2013, 05:57:29 PM »
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  • It is a very good development that Mahoney has gone.
    Obviously, it would have been better if he had not been there in the first place.

    But, as was the case with "cardinal" Bernadin, Mahoney was one of the worst in recent times in the US.







    Francis is an Antipope. Pray that God will grant us a good Pope and save the Church.
    I abjure and retract my schismatic support of the evil CMRI.Thuc condemned the Thuc nonbishops
    "Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to the authority of the Roman Pontiff"-Pope Boniface VIII.
    If you think Francis is Pope,do you treat him like an Antipope?
    Pastor Aeternus, and the Council of Trent Sessions XXIII and XXIV