Author Topic: BXVI: A "renewed anthropological foundation to religious freedom" (Read 1446 times)

JPaul · « **Reply #5 on:** May 05, 2011, 02:29:06 PM »

Quote from: LordPhan

Religious freedom is indifference to the damnation of souls. It is heresy. Outside the church their is no salvation.

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Council of Florence SESSION 11 4 February 1442

It firmly believes, professes and preaches that all those who are outside the catholic church, not only pagans but also Jews or heretics and schismatics, cannot share in eternal life and will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless they are joined to the catholic church before the end of their lives; that the unity of the ecclesiastical body is of such importance that only for those who abide in it do the church's sacraments contribute to salvation and do fasts, almsgiving and other works of piety and practices of the christian militia produce eternal rewards; and that nobody can be saved, no matter how much he has given away in alms and even if he has shed his blood in the name of Christ, unless he has persevered in the bosom and the unity of the catholic church.

You've got the right idea!

JPaul · « **Reply #6 on:** May 05, 2011, 02:31:17 PM »

Quote from: SpiritusSanctus

No, it's not compatible with Traditional Catholic dogma. Vatican II's definition of religious freedom is a heresy, that one can worship God any way he or she so chooses. That's like what the Protestants believe. You cannot worship God any way you want. This statement from Benedict is a load of garbage.

The last line of his statement also appears to be saying that a person can choose any political path they want. That's not correct. If a politician becomes enrooted in liberalism and supports abortion and/or gαy marriage, they are in sin. This is why Nancy Palosi, Joe Biden, and Harry Reid have automatically excommunicated themselves from the Church, you cannot be Catholic and support this evil junk!

SS, this is what comes when one does not believe in a fixed objective Truth.

stevusmagnus · « **Reply #7 on:** May 05, 2011, 07:06:05 PM »

Most Neo-Caths have no clue religious liberty is a novelty in Catholic teaching. They think it is as naturally Catholic as the rosary. I remember Neo-Caths having a rountable about Abp. Chaput's praising it.

They may as well set up a golden calf with religious liberty inscribed and worship it. Clueless idiots.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #8 on:** May 05, 2011, 08:48:40 PM »

Matters of reason can be matters of Faith and Morals.

Matters of Faith and Morals are not restricted to Revelation or the supernatural. Whether the Pope calls it anthropological it not has no bearing on whether or not it must be taken as Catholic teaching.