Author Topic: Cardinal Burke: Cardinals could take a "Formal Act of Correction" (Read 12882 times)

Geremia · « **Reply #40 on:** November 24, 2016, 09:47:03 AM »

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From the Code of Canon Law;

§3. No appeal or recourse is permitted against a sentence or decree of the Roman Pontiff.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__P16.HTM

Tell that to popes Benedict XIV, Pius VII and Gregory XVI. some of them make it up as they go along.

Doesn't that '83 Code have a canon (which the 1917 didn't) regarding how one has the right (or even duty) of correcting his superiors? I forget which cannon it is.

Geremia · « **Reply #41 on:** November 24, 2016, 11:39:06 AM »

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But if the 4 Conciliar cardinals take it a step further and actually declare Francis to have lost his office, how will the R&R handle it? How could the R&R justify such an act if they have spent the last 40 years developing arguments for how such a thing could never be done?

R&R doesn't argue that popes cannot become heretics (cf. ToFP ch. 8). R&R argues such an heretical pope would have to be deposed (cf. ToFP ch. 11).

poche · « **Reply #42 on:** November 24, 2016, 11:25:44 PM »

Quote from: Geremia

Quote from: cassini
Quote from: poche
From the Code of Canon Law;

§3. No appeal or recourse is permitted against a sentence or decree of the Roman Pontiff.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__P16.HTM

Tell that to popes Benedict XIV, Pius VII and Gregory XVI. some of them make it up as they go along.

Doesn't that '83 Code have a canon (which the 1917 didn't) regarding how one has the right (or even duty) of correcting his superiors? I forget which cannon it is.

No, there are rights of appeal and there is the right to make one's wishes known but there is no "right of correction" of one's superiors.

Geremia · « **Reply #43 on:** November 25, 2016, 10:27:30 AM »

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are rights of appeal and there is the right to make one's wishes known but there is no "right of correction" of one's superiors.

Isn't correction of superiors what they would do?

poche · « **Reply #44 on:** November 25, 2016, 11:24:33 PM »

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are rights of appeal and there is the right to make one's wishes known but there is no "right of correction" of one's superiors.
Isn't correction of superiors what they would do?

If they feel in their conscience (which it appears that they do) then if their conscience tells them to do so then they should do just that.