To reiterate:
I don't think it's a bad thing that Cardinal Burke and Bp. Schneider have called for prayer and fasting for that terrible Amazon synod. Are these two men perfect or unaffected by Modernism? No, not at all. That doesn't mean that they cannot at least see some of the problems with the docuмents of that synod, even though their understanding will likely be flawed in at least some respects. Their appeal for prayer and fasting might wake up a few well-intentioned sleeping Catholics in the conciliar church, who I don't believe are all beyond hope.
Sedevacantists tend to think that the conciliar church and its adherents are beyond all hope. That's not a Catholic position to take, IMO.
Yes, that's right. It is de fide Vatican I Dogma that "In His Church, there will be Shepherds and Teachers (Bishops with Power to Rule and Teach - with Ordinary Jurisdiction and Teaching Office) until the end of time. If there are no such Bishops today, then Vatican I is a lie. But that is heretical. Therefore, there most certainly are such Bishops today, and His Eminence +Burke, and His Excellency +Athanasius are among them. That doesn't mean they are perfect, but they are certainly Catholic.
It is entirely heretical and utterly faithless to say otherwise, to say that the Catholic Hierarchy completely defected into heresy. If anyone wants to keep saying it, he or she can take it up with Jesus Christ Himself at the Judgment. Jesus Christ is Truth and promised it would never happen. You either believe Him or you don't.
Sept 17th to Oct 26 are the 40 days for prayer and fasting. Let us Traditional Catholics who are participating in the great Crusade called for by these two good Catholic Bishops of the indefectible Catholic Hierarchy resolve to go beyond the bare minimum of "once a week fasting" and "one decade of the Rosary" - let us try to meet better Traditional Catholic standards, like fasting 2 to 3 days a week at least, for those 40 days, and praying 15 decades of the Rosary every day, as also His Excellency Bishop Williamson has been urging.
I have to disagree. I believe that men like +Schneider and +Burke are VERY DANGEROUS to Tradition. In calling out the most egregious of the V2 era heresies ...
Hi Ladislaus. I understand this perspective, but have to disagree with it. If we look back to the precedent Archbishop Lefebvre set, we see His Grace was always ready to work together with good Cardinals like His Eminence Cardinal Silvio +Oddi, not to mention His Eminence Cardinal Alfredo +Ottaviani and His Eminence Giuseppe +Siri before that. Cardinal Oddi said "Thank you, Monsignor" over Archbishop Lefebvre's tomb. Archbishop Lefebvre was always a man of the Church, recognizing the necessity of a Catholic Episcopate.
Therefore, imho His Excellency Bishop Fellay and the Society of Saint Pius X is absolutely justified in following its Saintly Founder's lead.
But beyond that, Ladislaus, both Bishop Athanasius and Cardinal Burke are more traditional on doctrine than some sede Bishops, as you yourself have said before - since sede Bishops teach people can be saved without faith in Jesus Christ, whereas these Bishops taught,
"After the institution of the New and Everlasting Covenant in Jesus Christ, no one may be saved by obedience to the law of Moses alone without faith in Christ as true God and the only Savior of humankind (see Rom 3:28; Gal 2:16). 5. Muslims and others who lack faith in Jesus Christ, God and man, even monotheists, cannot give to God the same adoration as Christians do, that is to say, supernatural worship in Spirit and in Truth (see Jn 4:24; Eph 2:8) of those who have received the Spirit of filial adoption (see Rom 8:15) ...
7. True ecuмenism intends that non-Catholics should enter that unity which the Catholic Church already indestructibly possesses in virtue of the prayer of Christ, always heard by His Father, “that they may be one” (John 17:11), and which she professes in the Symbol of Faith, “I believe in one Church.”
See:
https://onepeterfive.com/newly-released-declaration-of-truths-reads-like-a-neo-syllabus-of-errors/ And:
https://onepeterfive.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/Declaration_Truths_Errors_final_version_clean.pdfHis Excellency Bishop Fellay, contrary to what is often alleged here by many, has been carrying on the good fight in Rome on these issues, and on many others, in His 31 excellent years of commendable, faithful and Saintly service as a Traditional Catholic Bishop.
"And it even condemns trying to convert them, which it calls “Uniatism”. Once again, the Holy See’s response was to say: “That is not from the Magisterium.” And quite recently you have a docuмent published by Cardinal Koch on relations with the Jews ... December 10, 2015). It is a terrible docuмent, completely heretical, which claims that the Jews can be saved without coming through Our Lord (par. 36). Exactly the opposite of what Sacred Scripture teaches us, along with the first pope himself, Saint Peter, who says this to the Jews: “There is no other name under heaven given to men [except Jesus], whereby we must be saved” (Acts 4:12)."
http://sspx.org/en/can-pastoral-council-be-debatableSee also:
https://damselofthefaith.wordpress.com/2016/11/26/an-example-of-bishop-fellays-saintliness/ Those who are saying Bishop Fellay has ceased to be a Heroic Traditional Catholic Shepherd whom Traditional Catholics the world over happily unite behind and under have themselves ceased to see things correctly. The SSPX doesn't want to "run and hide", but rather it's going to "stay and fight".