Author Topic: Cardinal Bergoglio endorses the "tango posture" after Mass. (Read 1990 times)

LoverOfTradition · « **on:** November 11, 2013, 07:25:01 PM »

As a Cardinal, the Pope had some sort of Mass that involved a couple doing the tango right after the final blessing. Not during Mass, but still horrific.

Here's the video. Go to about 26:43 :

It seems that it's O.k. to stick together for the Progressive Tango Twist - Just not for the Traditional Prayer Position...

Pope St. Pius X, in a 1914 pastoral letter: "The tango, which has already been condemned by illustrious Bishops and is prohibited even in Protestant countries, must be absolutely prohibited in the see of the Roman Pontiff, the centre of the Catholic religion."

:really-mad2: :dwarf:

StCeciliasGirl · « **Reply #1 on:** November 11, 2013, 09:24:33 PM »

I had him figured for a gαy, but it seems he goes both ways.

Was that an RCC parish? Really? Man, the Lutherans WILL judge them.

Well, I feel like I've peered into Hell! Dante didn't go far enough, as his 7th circle vision looks kinder than those few moments of BerGOGlio dancing with the harlot. I like this portrayal far better than Bergoglio's tango:

Cantarella · « **Reply #2 on:** November 11, 2013, 10:06:09 PM »

How shameful!

Stubborn · « **Reply #3 on:** November 11, 2013, 11:12:39 PM »

From The Great Sacrilege 1971:

........Yes, I know it will be argued that the sacrileges are the exceptions and that they are not the "New Mass" itself. No, here is where you have failed to understand this clever Impiety. You have failed to notice that what you regard as sacrilegious is in no sense of the words really shocking or disturbing either to those who devised it, or for those who now enjoy it as the rite of their own liberation.

If you understand the "New Mass" and the perverse thinking which produced it, you are in no way surprised that its appearance signaled and let loose in the churches every kind of frivolous and mad-cap antic, and that in the name of religion. Of its very nature, the "New Mass" "liberates" the "children of God" that they might make a game out of worship. It claims to be able to render holy and pleasing to God, "having the odor of sweetness," every crudity, every inanity, every indecency. It claims to have the power to dispense any brazen boor who favors it with his attendance from all faith, all rightness of heart, all humility, and every divine prescription. (No, the exceptions are the presently-reigning Pontiff, [Paul VI] his cowed bishops, and their mousy priests, all of whom think it "kind" and "ecuмenical" and "forbearing" to tolerate the many desecrations which the "Novus Ordo" of its very nature unleashes against itself, and - let it never be omitted - against the True Mass, which it mocks!)

Some may say, you are identifying the abuses with the "New Mass" itself. I am saying that the "New Mass" IS the abuse of the True Mass! I am saying that, with the jettisoning of both the law and the spirit of Quo Primum, by that very Act, the Pope has not only substituted something totally different from the Mass, but that it is of the very essence of the "New Mass" to permit every form of profanation, because the "New Mass" makes the good pleasure of the people its "liturgy."

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #4 on:** November 11, 2013, 11:19:14 PM »

Quote from: LoverOfTradition

As a Cardinal, the Pope had some sort of Mass that involved a couple doing the tango right after the final blessing. Not during Mass, but still horrific.

Here's the video. Go to about 26:43 :

It seems that it's O.k. to stick together for the Progressive Tango Twist - Just not for the Traditional Prayer Position...

Pope St. Pius X, in a 1914 pastoral letter: "The tango, which has already been condemned by illustrious Bishops and is prohibited even in Protestant countries, must be absolutely prohibited in the see of the Roman Pontiff, the centre of the Catholic religion."

:really-mad2: :dwarf:

One would think this alone would have disqualified him for papal election!

Do you think they played this tape during the conclave?

Click at minute 8:00 for a RIVETING sermon (NOT), but timed very well,
because it lasts exactly 9 minutes.

Click the time bar at the 26:40 point for the "tango" dance:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/ZiHQ2hnwwuM#t=1600[/youtube]

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LoverOfTradition · « **Reply #5 on:** November 11, 2013, 11:25:03 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: LoverOfTradition
As a Cardinal, the Pope had some sort of Mass that involved a couple doing the tango right after the final blessing. Not during Mass, but still horrific.

Here's the video. Go to about 26:43 :

It seems that it's O.k. to stick together for the Progressive Tango Twist - Just not for the Traditional Prayer Position...

Pope St. Pius X, in a 1914 pastoral letter: "The tango, which has already been condemned by illustrious Bishops and is prohibited even in Protestant countries, must be absolutely prohibited in the see of the Roman Pontiff, the centre of the Catholic religion."

:really-mad2: :dwarf:

One would think this alone would have disqualified him for papal election!
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Well, the candidate has to be anything but Catholic to be elected in the Counciliar Church, it seems.

Ursus · « **Reply #6 on:** November 12, 2013, 12:57:51 AM »

I going to show this to my wife, she will NOT like it. We dance ballroom together.

What you're seeing is Argentine Tango, a variation of the more mainstream Tango. It's notable for being very close to your dance partner. Legs get intertwined, little kicks between each other. It's actually a "scandalous" or at the very least risqué dance. Many couples get into this form of dance alone, traveling around the world and such learning and enjoying it. I guess that's OK for married couples.

However, the history of the dance is based in Argentina Brothels where prostitutes would dance with their, um, men. It was a way of getting up close and personal while keeping her head turned away from the foul liquid smell of these men.

This has NO place in a church and sinful to disgrace the mass like that. The movements, her shirt hanging off seeing her undergarments is appalling.

ggreg · « **Reply #7 on:** November 12, 2013, 03:55:45 AM »

Let's hope that's the last tango embarrass.

Incredulous · « **Reply #8 on:** November 13, 2013, 01:19:37 AM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: LoverOfTradition
As a Cardinal, the Pope had some sort of Mass that involved a couple doing the tango right after the final blessing. Not during Mass, but still horrific.

Here's the video. Go to about 26:43 :

It seems that it's O.k. to stick together for the Progressive Tango Twist - Just not for the Traditional Prayer Position...

Pope St. Pius X, in a 1914 pastoral letter: "The tango, which has already been condemned by illustrious Bishops and is prohibited even in Protestant countries, must be absolutely prohibited in the see of the Roman Pontiff, the centre of the Catholic religion."

:really-mad2: :dwarf:

One would think this alone would have disqualified him for papal election!

Do you think they played this tape during the conclave?

Click at minute 8:00 for a RIVETING sermon (NOT), but timed very well,
because it lasts exactly 9 minutes.

Click the time bar at the 26:40 point for the "tango" dance:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/embed/ZiHQ2hnwwuM#t=1600[/youtube]

.

It would have been appropriate for some real Catholic men to grab Bergy by the scruff of his neck and throw him out on the front steps of the Church.

Likewise, the woman should have been grabbed by the hair and bitch-slapped all the way out into the street.

ThomisticPhilosopher · « **Reply #9 on:** November 13, 2013, 08:41:03 AM »

Remember that this Church has been taken over by schismatics, so as such it does not constitute sacrilege what they are doing. However, to those who believe that this is truly a Catholic Church it is sacrilege, the same goes with the communion wafers they hand out "during the new mass."

All of this is based on the moral principle that if you act on something despite it not being true. Take for example if its Thursday and you think its Friday, but you still eat meat. It is mortally sinful despite it being Thursday, because in your conscience you incorrectly believed that it was Friday. The same applies to many circuмstances if you believe it is Sunday and you work with the purpose of violating the Sabbath, even a few minutes work then becomes mortally sinful.

This is one of the reasons that I cannot in good conscience, even assuming that the indult would have valid traditional Latin masses go to them. If they celebrate a mass on schismatic altars it is not licit for me to attend. Suppose that my SSPX priest were to go to the local Orthodox Church, and he celebrates the tridentine mass it would be illicit. The same thing goes, despite a place having been consecrated as a Catholic Church, pre-Vatican II the fact is that schismatics have taken over the Church. If it is to be used as a Catholic place of worship again it must be re-consecrated for the purpose. The exception to this rule would be an Eastern Rite Catholic priest who has the faith, and is the one who exclusively celebrates the Divine Liturgy in that particular Church. There are places like that, in fact I think there is a Ruthenian parish in San Antonio where this is true. I think sadly enough they only celebrate the Divine Liturgy every other week, however. So please take into consideration all of these things (which are based on the Canon Law of the Church) as of right now we are not in danger of imminent death, where necessity would know no law. Yes we might be in a Universal apostasy during our times, but we need to distinguish that for many people worldwide some have it worse, and others a little better. You cannot presume if in your location things are going relatively well, that your principle of epikea applies in the same manner to someone who only has mass available once every few years which is true in many parts of Africa for example.

LoverOfTradition · « **Reply #10 on:** November 13, 2013, 03:57:32 PM »

Quote from: Stubborn

From The Great Sacrilege 1971:

........Yes, I know it will be argued that the sacrileges are the exceptions and that they are not the "New Mass" itself. No, here is where you have failed to understand this clever Impiety. You have failed to notice that what you regard as sacrilegious is in no sense of the words really shocking or disturbing either to those who devised it, or for those who now enjoy it as the rite of their own liberation.

If you understand the "New Mass" and the perverse thinking which produced it, you are in no way surprised that its appearance signaled and let loose in the churches every kind of frivolous and mad-cap antic, and that in the name of religion. Of its very nature, the "New Mass" "liberates" the "children of God" that they might make a game out of worship. It claims to be able to render holy and pleasing to God, "having the odor of sweetness," every crudity, every inanity, every indecency. It claims to have the power to dispense any brazen boor who favors it with his attendance from all faith, all rightness of heart, all humility, and every divine prescription. (No, the exceptions are the presently-reigning Pontiff, [Paul VI] his cowed bishops, and their mousy priests, all of whom think it "kind" and "ecuмenical" and "forbearing" to tolerate the many desecrations which the "Novus Ordo" of its very nature unleashes against itself, and - let it never be omitted - against the True Mass, which it mocks!)

Some may say, you are identifying the abuses with the "New Mass" itself. I am saying that the "New Mass" IS the abuse of the True Mass! I am saying that, with the jettisoning of both the law and the spirit of Quo Primum, by that very Act, the Pope has not only substituted something totally different from the Mass, but that it is of the very essence of the "New Mass" to permit every form of profanation, because the "New Mass" makes the good pleasure of the people its "liturgy."

Those who run the "Peter Romanus" Youtube channel have made a video about this:

It seems that the "New Mass" is itself the sacrilege that gives rise to what we see before us. Your post is truly astounding Stubborn. God help us...

Stubborn · « **Reply #11 on:** November 13, 2013, 04:41:54 PM »

Yes, Fr. Wathen's book is really prophetic when it comes to the NO and it's "mass".

Whenever I see things like this, I cannot help but wonder who is the bigger fool - the dancers themselves, the people sitting there and even clapping, or the Cardinal? Reminds me of Luke 18:8 ......But yet the Son of man, when he cometh, shall he find, think you, faith on earth?

I don't think He will.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #12 on:** November 14, 2013, 04:22:24 AM »

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It seems He won't find much faith, but He will find a lot of filth.

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