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Offline Lover of Truth

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Canonization of Saints Infallible
« on: April 28, 2014, 01:45:26 PM »
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  • http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07790a.htm

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    It is also commonly and rightly held that the Church is infallible in the canonization of saints, that is to say, when canonization takes place according to the solemn process that has been followed since the ninth century. Mere beatification, however, as distinguished from canonization, is not held to be infallible, and in canonization itself the only fact that is infallibly determined is that the soul of the canonized saint departed in the state of grace and already enjoys the beatific vision.


    Of course the false Popes of the false Church depart from the solemn process that has been followed since the ninth century as the depart from all things Catholic.  I'm perplexed that there is even a conversation among Catholics as to whether a Catholic Pope could canonize the likes of Roncalli and JP2 or not.

    Would any valid Pope say I'm canonizing so and so but I am making it so I don't do so in an infallible way so if I am wrong it won't count against my infallibility?  Absurdity on stilts man! Why have Popes or canonizations if we cannot trust the Pope or the accuracy of canonizations?  Again, even discussing the issue as if it were an open debate is absurd.  

    The Catholic Church is either indefictible or not.  She is either infallible or she is not.  She is either a safe and sure guide or she is not.  Only professional heretics and false Churches give us a stone when we ask for bread or bread when we ask for Christ.

    Either take off the blind folds or put on your clown uniform and declare that the Novus Ordo is the Catholic Church and its leaders our hierarchy.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    Canonization of Saints Infallible
    « Reply #1 on: April 28, 2014, 08:07:39 PM »
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    Canonization of Saints Infallible
    « Reply #2 on: April 28, 2014, 10:06:56 PM »
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    Canonization of Saints Infallible
    « Reply #3 on: April 29, 2014, 08:50:35 AM »
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     :baby: Waaaa.  My Pope canonized apostate heretics.   :baby: :rahrah: :rahrah:
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church