Author Topic: Canonical Censure by Gregory XIX (Read 2654 times)

IllyricumSacrum · « **on:** August 09, 2014, 12:11:57 PM »

I registered to join a new forum set up by good folks at thepopeinred.com because I'm interested in the whole Siri thesis/sedeimpeditenttism (sp?) thing.

well, I received an email saying that the censures that I incurred (what...wait...when?) were not lifted yet, and I had to contact Fr. Khoat and work with him to get this "excommunication" lifted or present the proper paperwork in case they were wrong. I don't recall getting anything in the mail. What am I to make of this. Apparently anyone who had received sacraments outside of the hidden/underground hierarchy are excommunicated DE JURE! Fr. Kelly and the SSPV seem Episcopalian to these folks.

What am I took make of this? Maybe I should take this to Patriarch Sviatoslav. But, the again, he's cencured, too. :scratchchin:

MarylandTrad · « **Reply #1 on:** August 09, 2014, 01:05:52 PM »

The Siri thesis was invented by the devil. If you want to save your soul have nothing to do with it. Here is a link to a picture of him saying the New Order Mass. http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A440-Siri-1.htm

Cardinal Siri pledged allegiance to the conciliar Popes. See here http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A441-Siri2.html

That so many sedevacantists entertain this diabolical theory is a testimony to their despair and depravity.

IllyricumSacrum · « **Reply #2 on:** August 09, 2014, 01:55:03 PM »

Maybe so, but I'd like to know who runs this popeinred site. Is it that Giuffre character? And how is Fr. Khoat involved in all this?
And should I still consider myself censured? :rolleyes:

Matto · « **Reply #3 on:** August 09, 2014, 03:35:57 PM »

Quote from: IllyricuмSacrum

Maybe so, but I'd like to know who runs this popeinred site. Is it that Giuffre character? And how is Fr. Khoat involved in all this?
And should I still consider myself censured? :rolleyes:

The site is run by a man named David Hobson who buys and sells baseball cards for a living. He and Matthew don't get along.

IllyricumSacrum · « **Reply #4 on:** August 09, 2014, 07:10:24 PM »

Quote from: Matto

Quote from: IllyricuмSacrum
Maybe so, but I'd like to know who runs this popeinred site. Is it that Giuffre character? And how is Fr. Khoat involved in all this?
And should I still consider myself censured? :rolleyes:

The site is run by a man named David Hobson who buys and sells baseball cards for a living. He and Matthew don't get along.

He makes some rather bold claims.
Is Fr. Khoat a valid priest? And if yes, how is he involved with a guy like Hobson.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #5 on:** August 10, 2014, 09:12:01 AM »

How did you get excommunicated in the first place?

JohnAnthonyMarie · « **Reply #6 on:** August 10, 2014, 10:08:46 AM »

Quote from: Matto

The site is run by a man named David Hobson who buys and sells baseball cards for a living. He and Matthew don't get along.

I assisted Mr. Hobson with the early development of his webpages by providing him numerous pictures. He is responsible for the Siri thesis. Not too long ago, he was making some claim about supporting his hidden pope, so I requested to meet with this man. Mr. Hobson refused my request with security concerns. Now I assisted Mr. Hobson, and allowed him to take extensively from my online work for his own needs, so I was a little put off by his denial of my request. I can only conclude that the story invented my Mr. Hobson can not be confirmed, and that his refusal to allow me to investigate further shows me that he is hiding something (most likely the truth).

Ladislaus · « **Reply #7 on:** August 10, 2014, 10:13:51 AM »

Quote from: MarylandTrad

The Siri thesis was invented by the devil. If you want to save your soul have nothing to do with it. Here is a link to a picture of him saying the New Order Mass. http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A440-Siri-1.htm

Cardinal Siri pledged allegiance to the conciliar Popes. See here http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A441-Siri2.html

That so many sedevacantists entertain this diabolical theory is a testimony to their despair and depravity.

Absurd. There's plenty of credible evidence for the Siri thesis.

Stay far away from Hobson however.

IllyricumSacrum · « **Reply #8 on:** August 11, 2014, 12:30:39 PM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

How did you get excommunicated in the first place?

We are all excommunicated! Reason: because we partake of the sacraments (valid or not) outside of clergy approved by the underground hierarchy.

IllyricumSacrum · « **Reply #9 on:** August 11, 2014, 12:34:10 PM »

Quote from: Ladislaus

Quote from: MarylandTrad
The Siri thesis was invented by the devil. If you want to save your soul have nothing to do with it. Here is a link to a picture of him saying the New Order Mass. http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A440-Siri-1.htm

Cardinal Siri pledged allegiance to the conciliar Popes. See here http://www.traditioninaction.org/RevolutionPhotos/A441-Siri2.html

That so many sedevacantists entertain this diabolical theory is a testimony to their despair and depravity.

Absurd. There's plenty of credible evidence for the Siri thesis.

Stay far away from Hobson however.

I take it he is not on the up and up, right?

What I don't understand is why bother with an "open" forum or chat room if you're gonna pull something like this?

Even if there were some truth to it, how are we culpable?

Matthew · « **Reply #10 on:** August 11, 2014, 12:56:01 PM »

Quote from: Matto

Quote from: IllyricuмSacrum
Maybe so, but I'd like to know who runs this popeinred site. Is it that Giuffre character? And how is Fr. Khoat involved in all this?
And should I still consider myself censured? :rolleyes:

The site is run by a man named David Hobson who buys and sells baseball cards for a living. He and Matthew don't get along.

The one with issues, however, is Hobson. It's not me that's difficult to get along with.

Hobson is the one who tried to destroy me, my job, and my entire family. He tried to get me fired from my job and dismissed by any paying clients. He contacted my local chamber of commerce trying to slander me, and much more. If it had been within his power, he would have rejoiced to see me on the street with my young children, eventually starving to death. If he could have succeeded in this, he would have happily sung a "Te Deum" and gone to Mass the next Sunday and received Holy Communion.

Sick and disgusting. Whatever religion he is, count me out!

And all because I let Gladius_Veritatis post his "Ode to Reality" here and discuss it. But lest you think you understand it -- no, it's more bizarre than that.

See, he wasn't on the same side as Gladius' opponents (Fr. Cekada, Bishop Dolan, SGG). No, he was on some kind of bizarre "third side" which I still don't understand to this day.

You know all those jokes about women being hard to understand, impossible to please, etc.? Women are easy to please and understand compared to some Trad Catholics.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #11 on:** August 11, 2014, 01:30:17 PM »

Quote from: JohnAnthonyMarie

He is responsible for the Siri thesis.

No, he just co-opted it for some bizarre unknown sinister purpose.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #12 on:** August 11, 2014, 01:41:39 PM »

So they claim to now be on Gregory XIX, eh?

I wonder what happened to Gregory XVIII? Did they claim that Archbishop Arrigo Pintonello was Gregory XVIII?

Bizarre stuff.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #13 on:** August 11, 2014, 01:47:01 PM »

If the "Siri" Thesis is untenable. And, I would not say that it is a
creation of the devil. Something happened at the conclave of 1958
and 1963.
All that lived through the times including myself knew something
really went wrong, and something was not right. We felt that
the Holy Spirit was lacking. I remember as a 10 year boy when
John XXlll came out to the balcony, something was really wrong
for taking that name because it was a name of an previous anti
Pope. And the first white smoke that no one could give an
explanation, and a mistake was made, was just unacceptable.

The question is, who was elected Pope in which the white smoke
first came out of the chimney. Someone was elected if not "Siri".
Roncalli took the name of John XXlll because he knew that it is
is a name of a previous anti pope. This is why no elected Pope
ever took the name of John in 500 years.
Secrets and mysteries that will be as haunting as the true
Third Secret of Fatima. We will perhaps never know in our lifetime.
We will know in the next. We all know that something went really
wrong in the Conclave of 1958 and the church has been going
downhill ever since.

Ladislaus · « **Reply #14 on:** August 11, 2014, 02:09:33 PM »

I wouldn't be surprised if Hobson were a paid disinfo agent trying to make the Siri thesis look absurd.