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Author Topic: Can laywomen clean in the sanctuary?  (Read 7562 times)

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Offline Everlast22

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Re: Can laywomen clean in the sanctuary?
« Reply #20 on: February 18, 2025, 10:47:53 AM »
So dumb. We've had lay women singing in the choirs of all the trad chapels I've been too, even nuns on occasion too. Don't let that damage you back into the NO tho, it's ok.
What does singing in the choir have to do with being in the actual Sanctuary

Offline Stubborn

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Re: Can laywomen clean in the sanctuary?
« Reply #21 on: February 18, 2025, 11:06:32 AM »
What does singing in the choir have to do with being in the actual Sanctuary
Lad's quoting his own theology about women cleaning the sanctuary as something that leads to the NO, but no mention of women singing in Church - when St. Paul quite clearly says: "Let women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted them to speak, but to be subject, as also the law saith." - 1 Cor 14:34



Offline Everlast22

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Re: Can laywomen clean in the sanctuary?
« Reply #22 on: February 18, 2025, 11:08:54 AM »
Lad's quoting his own theology about women cleaning the sanctuary as something that leads to the NO, but no mention of women singing in Church - when St. Paul quite clearly says: "Let women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted them to speak, but to be subject, as also the law saith." - 1 Cor 14:34
As in they should not teach is what I get out of that. I'm not sure what that has to do with singing in the choir. I'm not an expert on this, but when they say permitted to speak, I think it means women should not be teaching collectively if all possible.

Offline Stubborn

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Re: Can laywomen clean in the sanctuary?
« Reply #23 on: February 18, 2025, 12:08:10 PM »
As in they should not teach is what I get out of that. I'm not sure what that has to do with singing in the choir. I'm not an expert on this, but when they say permitted to speak, I think it means women should not be teaching collectively if all possible.
"Let women keep silence in the churches" seems clear enough to me, but either way, nowhere does he say woman cannot clean the sanctuary.

In the OT, only the high priest was allowed in what could be considered the sanctuary, and in the NT, only men are permitted to be in the sanctuary during Mass, benediction etc., but woman are not forbidden to step foot in the sanctuary when necessary at other times, that idea is ridiculous.
 

Offline Everlast22

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Re: Can laywomen clean in the sanctuary?
« Reply #24 on: February 18, 2025, 12:11:28 PM »
"Let women keep silence in the churches" seems clear enough to me, but either way, nowhere does he say woman cannot clean the sanctuary.

In the OT, only the high priest was allowed in what could be considered the sanctuary, and in the NT, only men are permitted to be in the sanctuary during Mass, benediction etc., but woman are not forbidden to step foot in the sanctuary when necessary at other times, that idea is ridiculous.
 
From what I understand, women specifically not in the sanctuary is a tradition of the Catholic Church. I can't remember who wrote the encyclical on this, but there may be more than one.