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Offline Capt McQuigg

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Repeatedly, Pope Francis will mention Marxism and add that he knows many Marxists who are fine people and many atheists who are fine people.  He has even given the impression that he thinks atheists could go to Heaven.

Now, think about the flip side of that coin.  Pope Francis has advised the Church to not obsess over abortion.  

He has also, on just about every chance, said something derogatory and insulting about Traditionalists, whether it's Pope Francis' embarrassing misuse of the word "Pelagian" or whether he thinks Trads are just nostalgic malcontents.  

So, can anyone cite an example of Pope Francis extolling the virtues of Traditional Catholics?  And by this I include Indults, who should be in Pope Francis' good graces but we all saw the draconian, and lightening quick, response to the FFI situation.

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Can anyone remember Pope Francis saying a kind word about Traditionalists?
« Reply #1 on: December 27, 2013, 06:43:01 PM »
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  • that's funny.  I haven't met many marxists.  There sure are more trads.

    It's a little strange he's trying to appeal to a smaller group with subversive ideals.

    Huh?


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    « Reply #2 on: December 27, 2013, 06:44:24 PM »
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  • I think there might be a snake loose in the Domus Sanctae Marthae... :smirk:

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    Can anyone remember Pope Francis saying a kind word about Traditionalists?
    « Reply #3 on: December 27, 2013, 07:06:13 PM »
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  • Wow!  Good point, Cap'n!  He's not said much of anything nice to Traditionalists at all!
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    Can anyone remember Pope Francis saying a kind word about Traditionalists?
    « Reply #4 on: December 27, 2013, 10:50:29 PM »
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  • Yep.  He would never dare say a harsh word about the true pertinacious formal schismatic like the Orthodox.

    That clearly shows that this man is not sincere and is operating in bad faith.


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    Can anyone remember Pope Francis saying a kind word about Traditionalists?
    « Reply #5 on: December 28, 2013, 01:36:31 AM »
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    But, but, but, he prevented World War III.  

    Why doesn't poche know about that?  

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    « Reply #6 on: December 28, 2013, 01:44:18 AM »
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    Repeatedly, Pope Francis will mention Marxism and add that he knows many Marxists who are fine people and many atheists who are fine people.  He has even given the impression that he thinks atheists could go to Heaven.

    Now, think about the flip side of that coin.  Pope Francis has advised the Church to not obsess over abortion.  

    He has also, on just about every chance, said something derogatory and insulting about Traditionalists, whether it's Pope Francis' embarrassing misuse of the word "Pelagian" or whether he thinks Trads are just nostalgic malcontents.  

    So, can anyone cite an example of Pope Francis extolling the virtues of Traditional Catholics?  And by this I include Indults, who should be in Pope Francis' good graces but we all saw the draconian, and lightening quick, response to the FFI situation.

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    I'd like to know if he knows many prostitutes who are fine people, or if he knows many terrorists or pederasts who are fine people.  

    Does he know any bank robbers or drug pushers who are fine people?  How about satanists:  are there any fine people among the satanists he knows?  

    He seems to think highly of Muslim women, because he washed the feet of one of them on Holy Thursday.  That probably got the attention of a lot of Mohammedans, and especially the fine people among them.

    What about the Catholic saints?  Are any of them fine people, according to Francis?  Or the Roman martyrs:  are any of the Roman martyrs fine people too, according to the Bishop of Rome?


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    Offline Emitte Lucem Tuam

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    Can anyone remember Pope Francis saying a kind word about Traditionalists?
    « Reply #7 on: December 28, 2013, 06:17:53 PM »
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  • Why would Francis say a kind word about Traditionalists?  He is through and through Novus Ordo which is completely alien to traditional Catholicism.   You can't expect someone to say a kind word about something they either hate or have no clue as to what it's about.  
    Francis preaches a different religion other than Catholicism.  That is a fact.


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    Can anyone remember Pope Francis saying a kind word about Traditionalists?
    « Reply #8 on: December 28, 2013, 06:53:37 PM »
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  • The only thing I remember reading is something along the lines that he appreciates criticism from Traditionalists.

    Whatever the hell that means.  Sounds like a politician to me.
    "For there is not any thing secret that shall not be made manifest, nor hidden, that shall not be known and come abroad."- Luke 8:17

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    Can anyone remember Pope Francis saying a kind word about Traditionalists?
    « Reply #9 on: December 28, 2013, 07:29:37 PM »
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    The only thing I remember reading is something along the lines that he appreciates criticism from Traditionalists.

    Whatever the hell that means.  Sounds like a politician to me.


    "Thank you for your input, your thoughts are important to us."

    He is smart in that regard. If he knows he is going to lose faithful Catholics he can use their criticisms for attracting the opposite to his church.

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    Can anyone remember Pope Francis saying a kind word about Traditionalists?
    « Reply #10 on: December 28, 2013, 08:22:26 PM »
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  •  :dancing-banana:
    Was it Euripides who said, "A man's character may be known by the company he keeps."?  
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  


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    Can anyone remember Pope Francis saying a kind word about Traditionalists?
    « Reply #11 on: December 28, 2013, 10:41:10 PM »
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    But, but, but, he prevented World War III.  

    Why doesn't poche know about that?  

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    I was busy in prayer with him to prevent World War III

    Offline Capt McQuigg

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    « Reply #12 on: December 28, 2013, 10:57:50 PM »
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  • Quote from: poche
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    But, but, but, he prevented World War III.  

    Why doesn't poche know about that?  

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    I was busy in prayer with him to prevent World War III


    World War III wasn't "hanging in the balance" and the entire event was a media-manufactured story.  

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    « Reply #13 on: December 28, 2013, 11:02:52 PM »
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  • I found an announcement in Spanish in which the people of the TLM were blessed by the pope. This is in the Spanish version of Paix Liturgique. Apparently they say diffrent things in different languages.

    Several members of the office Liturgique Paix had the grace to participate in the pilgrimage village Summorum Pontificum which concluded on Sunday 27 October with the celebration of the feast of Christ the King , in the Basilica of Santa Maria sopra Minerva by Bishop Fernando Rifan , ordinary bishop of the apostolic Administration of St. John Mary Vianney ( Brazil ) .

    Returning from Rome, our impression is very simple : ad Petri sedem Catholics 'extraordinary' are treated as 'ordinary' Catholics or , no pun intended , in Rome the presence of the representatives of the people Summorum Pontificum is usually considered . Neither more nor less .

    Therefore, we return to our parishes and dioceses strengthened with this simple hope that what is possible and normal banks of the Tiber , which is also tomorrow , the Seine , the Rhine, or the Tagus.



    I - THE MESSAGE OF HIS HOLINESS THE PILGRIMS FRANCISCO

    Your Eminence , Cardinal Dario Castrillon Hoyos , during a pilgrimage to Rome Summorum Pontificum Coetus Internationalis under the Year of Faith His Holiness Pope Francisco runs a cordial greeting , wishing that participation in the pious path near the tombs of the apostles, arouse fervent adherence to Christ , celebrated in the Eucharist and in the public worship of the Church , and seek a renewed impetus to the evangelical witness .

    The Sovereign Pontiff , invoking the gifts of the Holy Spirit and the maternal protection of the Mother of God, taught , at heart, the implored Apostolic Blessing propitiatory peace and spiritual fervor , your Eminence , prelates , priests and all the faithful present in this holy celebration.

    The blessing of the Holy Father was read during the Mass celebrated by Msgr Pozzo, secretary of the Commission Ecclesia Dei, in St. Peter's Basilica on Saturday 26 October. These lines, signed by the new Secretary of State, Monsignor Parolin, constituted a vibrant eco homily Cardinal, former chairman of the committee, and that title, principal architect of Summorum Pontificum Motu Proprio issued by Pope Benedict XVI on 7 July 2007.

    The cardinal, in his homily, addressing the Sovereign Pontiff use the "we" that was not majestic but collective-His Eminence was considered at that time as a simple member of the People Summorum Pontificum-said, in effect, that "we are not alone holy Father, we are with the centuries of the Church and the legions of saints and martyrs. "A strong message that touched the hearts of the pilgrims.

    http://es.paix-liturgique.org/?force=1

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    « Reply #14 on: December 28, 2013, 11:18:45 PM »
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  • Repeatedly, Pope Francis will mention Marxism and add that he knows many Marxists who are fine people and many atheists who are fine people. He has even given the impression that he thinks atheists could go to Heaven.

    If the capitalists who call themselves "Catholic" had acted more Catholic there would be a lot fewer Marxists in the world than there are now.


     

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