:dancing-banana:Insanity might be an improvement! :dancing-banana:

Someone consult St Thomas Aquinas.

RE: Schizophrenia... Depends whether he has psychosis or not. You can get psychosis, and then go back to normal in time, but the diagnosis remains. It ought not to disqualify anyone from any position. The pope having extreme psychological tendencies would not only be imitating the greatest saints, but would be willing to step outside the constraints of the real world to practice his faith, that would be an example to us all that this world is not as important as the faith. Also, if he is willing to step beyond reason motivated by his faith he will make a most excellent pope. The church fell because everyone who could have made a difference was concerned about their own welfare, their position, etc. If the pope didn't care what would happen to him he would imitate the martyrs and would be a true saint, and the church would have a fearless leader. Btw, it is proven that there is no such thing as schizophrenia, there is no scientific test to prove it exists, that disease is the sacred cow of psychiatry, even its discoverer admitted that it didn't exist and could be a psychological extreme state. Anyone who has the faith deeply enough will step beyond cultural morality and will appear to abandon reason, but their interests will be the sanest thing of all, winning the approval of God.
The "mentally ill" are often very religious. I am one, as everyone knows.

Insane or not The First Vatican Council stated that it is a matter of faith that the pope is infallible when he pronounces on matters of faith and morals.  

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There is another question to ask, perhaps more important than whether a insane man can be elected pope, and that is, can a demonically possessed man be elected pope?

For the erstwhile Jorge Cardinal Bergoglio was having severe medical problems before he engaged the assistance of an arguably druidic 'healer' and by that means regained his 'health' --- which could be a fulfillment of prophesy, found in Mt. xxiv.

Is a medical 'cure' outside the reach of 'standard' medicine not to be thought of as a great sign or a wonder?  

If his very health (and therefore his ability to hold the office of pope) relies on a Taoist pseudo satanism parlor trick, then why would his papacy not be subservient to the devil?  

Oh, don't miss the fact that B16, whose health was 'in question' before he abdicated is now as healthy as can be.  Hey -- maybe Francis turned him on to some Taoist practices and that's why he's all better too?  Hmmmmm?


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Insane or not The First Vatican Council stated that it is a matter of faith that the pope is infallible when he pronounces on matters of faith and morals.  

Insanity would mean that he would be incapable of holding the office of the Papacy. You can amaze me sometimes, do you do on purpose? Or do you genuinely ask these questions or give these comments. Sometimes I really do wonder, poche.

Do you agree that canonists and theologians all agree that the man who is habitually insane, loses his office ipso facto. No one is talking about Vatican I, this is the problem with Denzingerites. They have no clue about the hundreds of rules that must be understood before one can even read Canon law or apply it. You go into your semi-protestant approach to things and repeat with no whatsoever reference to the magisterium, your own interpretation of things. If even the Holy Scriptures should not be read alone, without the help of Holy Mother Church. How much more should we dedicate ourselves in reading the writings of Our Dear Mother, as she understands it herself. That means that reading ex cathedra statements are to understood as the Church understands it itself, not as you understand it or anyone else.

I might also add, according to your own estimates how many ex cathedra statements have been pronounced in the history of the Church. Just wondering, because it seems its the only thing you are interested in... We can ignore everything else they say or do, because "we can resist" without impunity or scruple. Go ahead and say it, you are the Pope.

Your methods are dangerous and will lead you to a dark path, just wait when things get worse with Mr. Bergoglio you will do everything possible to self-justify in your mind at some point you will just treat the ordinary and extraordinary magisterium as nothing... This is what I fear of those who hold to the position that no matter what no claimant can ever lose his office. It does not matter what he says or does, its all the same. With these people its useless to even have a conversation the reason being is that it is never a question of facts or anything, but in principle they just simply will never change their mind because they hold to a position that is just untenable, the worse things get the worse it becomes for them. Poor deluded souls... May God illumine these minds because many of them certainly are good & pious.

Kyrie eleison...

Is insanity the same thing as holding to heresy?
Because that is what it would take before he could be judged by the church.

If you contemplate an eternity in hell, then all heresy and any sin is truly insanity.