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Offline Maria Auxiliadora

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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2013, 02:27:53 PM »
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  • Christ have mercy on us sinners.

    Things are going to get even worse now.



    Offline Lover of Truth

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    « Reply #2 on: December 16, 2013, 02:38:15 PM »
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    Christ have mercy on us sinners.

    Things are going to get even worse now.



    Worse if you are in the Novus Ordo Church and believe it is the Catholic Church.  

    But also worse for all of us.  You are right.  I see no indication of anything getting better anywhere apart from a great miracle.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

    Offline LoverOfTradition

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    « Reply #3 on: December 16, 2013, 02:52:39 PM »
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  • God help us. Only He can end this crisis.

    I wonder what's going to become of Cardinal Burke. He'll probably be sent to the gutters with Piacenza.

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    « Reply #4 on: December 16, 2013, 03:13:13 PM »
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    God help us. Only He can end this crisis.

    I wonder what's going to become of Cardinal Burke. He'll probably be sent to the gutters with Piacenza.


    With any luck, perhaps this will awaken the giant in Cardinal Burke.  This could be a blessing in disguise.

    ::off to check out Michael Voris::
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    « Reply #5 on: December 16, 2013, 03:25:07 PM »
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    God help us. Only He can end this crisis.

    I wonder what's going to become of Cardinal Burke. He'll probably be sent to the gutters with Piacenza.


    No, cardinal Burke is still "one of the boys", he has no worries about getting kicked in the stomach and out into the street - not as long as he keeps doing what he is doing - namely, talk like a Catholic sometimes while continuing to remain faithful to the Novus Ordo.

    He can say and do whatever he wants until he crosses the line, until then, all he is is a conservative NOer - he's no real concern to the conciliar crooks so they  have nothing to worry about.

       
    I say that it is licit to resist the Roman Pontiff by not doing what he orders and by impeding the execution of his will; it is not licit, however, to judge, punish or depose him, since these are acts proper to a superior." St. Robert Bellarmine

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    « Reply #6 on: December 16, 2013, 03:33:25 PM »
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  • I don't trust the "conservative" Novus Ordo Bishops anyway. To me they are all probably Judases too. If they weren't they would stand up to the Pope when he says his heresies like when he said that the old covenant was never revoked and that therefore Jews could get to heaven without believing in Jesus Christ. They are still members of the conciliar sect in good standing and no more Catholic than the liberals even though they pretend to be.
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    « Reply #7 on: December 16, 2013, 03:35:19 PM »
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    I don't trust the "conservative" Novus Ordo Bishops anyway. To me they are all probably Judases too. If they weren't they would stand up to the Pope when he says his heresies like when he said that the old covenant was never revoked and that therefore Jews could get to heaven without believing in Jesus Christ. They are still members of the conciliar sect in good standing and no more Catholic than the liberals even though they pretend to be.


    I've got to believe that just like certain NO lay folk finally get it that certain hierarchy will finally get it.
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    « Reply #8 on: December 16, 2013, 05:55:59 PM »
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  • Wuerl said to Catholics that they can get contraception cheaply elsewhere, since the Church doesn't cover it. Wuerl is complicit in contraception, "the wicked conspiracy to murder," as the Roman Catechism calls it.
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    « Reply #9 on: December 16, 2013, 08:34:44 PM »
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  • You should see the slander and defamation going on against Cardinal Burke here... http://davidgibson.religionnews.com/2013/12/16/rome-american-rises-another-american-fades/


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    « Reply #10 on: December 16, 2013, 11:02:50 PM »
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  • Putrid and disgusting.  All elements of it.  From Pope Francis' attacks on the Franciscans of the Immaculate to this latest booting of Cardinal Burke.  And then...Burke's flaccid disposition amidst all of this.  

    I have always said that the majority of American people are completely corrupt, evil, and deserve to be marched around in the desert for 40 years.  And since we here in America do everything bigger and better than everyone else, maybe we should be marched around in the desert for 80 years.

    Obama is a wonderful punishment on this country.  I am glad the people have him.  He is elected our president, and he is our ruler until 2016.  It's perfect.  And seeing the completely weak Republicans cave in on everything the progressive Marxists demand...it just makes me want him to stay in office longer.  Hopefully Hillary will win in the next presidential and stay in office for the next 8 years.  I think we NEED 16 years of horrible policy.  And then, when the idiots of this country are fed up with the terrible policies and all the injustice being done to them...they will elect another Democrat.  I love it.  Let it happen.  Let the land become a waste.

    Obama is a sort of type or precursor to Pope Francis.  The more I see people like Cardinal Dolan or Cardinal Burke (who I thought would be more of a leader than he has shown)...the more I see clergy like this, the more I think the Church needs Pope Francis.  We have the pope we deserve--and make no mistake, he is your pope.  

    I can't wait to see all of the higher clergy preach and moan about how important it will be that America has "immigration reform" next year.  Mark my words, you'll get to hear that nonsense after January.  

    Perhaps the laity of the Catholic Church deserve what is coming.  I mean, we're all Traditional Catholics--here and on other boards.  There's Traditional Catholics.  But a strong majority of Catholics are liberal and mindless and ignorant to everything we know.  They contracept, accept homosexuality, they're pro-feminist...it's hilarious how off key they are from true Catholic teaching.  What does today's Catholic man look like?  Look at PeeWee Herman Raymond Arroyo.  Look at him and cringe.  That's today's Catholic "man."

    Perhaps the Church, too, is destined to become a waste.  Perhaps we are destined to suffer severe loss in all of the treasures we thought we had a lock on.  Would such a tragedy cause the Catholics to remember who they were?  Probably not.  In which case, they should suffer more and more.

    And what of we folks who see all of this coming and say "wait a minute...I don't deserve this!"  To such people, I say that you have the good grace to see it coming and to gird your loins.  See it coming and prepare yourselves and your families.  The Faith has survived in Russia in spite of Stalin's communist behemoth.  It survives in China in spite of their mechanical robotic insane communist machine.

    America and Europe...it'll soon be your turn.  Prepare to survive in a waste.  It seems the people have earned it.

     
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    « Reply #11 on: December 16, 2013, 11:15:20 PM »
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  • Analogous to Obama sacking his competent generals so he can start WWIII ?
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    « Reply #12 on: December 16, 2013, 11:55:20 PM »
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    Analogous to Obama sacking his competent generals so he can start WWIII ?


    Yes, absolutely.  Analogous.   :applause:
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    « Reply #13 on: December 17, 2013, 07:30:58 AM »
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  • Just as Obama is Constitutionally unable to be President of the USA...and just like Obama is anti-American in every way, he is still the President, just like Francis is still the Pope even though he is anti-Catholic in almost every way and not qualified to be Pope.


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    « Reply #14 on: December 17, 2013, 09:50:20 AM »
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    Just as Obama is Constitutionally unable to be President of the USA...and just like Obama is anti-American in every way, he is still the President, just like Francis is still the Pope even though he is anti-Catholic in almost every way and not qualified to be Pope.



    IMO, due process is necessary on both cases. The problem is that authority on both cases is so corrupt. We have to trust in God. Only He and the IHM can help us but at least we have Her promise.
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