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Title: Bugnini Masterminded The New Mass in Defiance of Pope Paul VI
Post by: stevusmagnus on October 20, 2009, 04:01:44 PM
Title: Bugnini Masterminded The New Mass in Defiance of Pope Paul VI
Post by: gladius_veritatis on October 20, 2009, 04:16:03 PM
So, Bugnini was working AGAINST Paul VI, who then used his authority to implement the fruit of labors that were AGAINST his wishes, and did NOTHING to undo any of this for the next 8 years or so?

Is that about right?

Seems plausible...
Title: Bugnini Masterminded The New Mass in Defiance of Pope Paul VI
Post by: stevusmagnus on October 20, 2009, 04:20:07 PM
Gladius,

That would be my first question. Why then did Pope Paul VI sign the new Missal into action??

I have heard that Paul VI did reject some of Bugnini's suggestions such as getting rid of the Roman Canon and revising the Rosary.

So perhaps the final NO Rite was a watered down version as opposed to 100% of what Bugnini wanted.
Title: Bugnini Masterminded The New Mass in Defiance of Pope Paul VI
Post by: stevusmagnus on October 20, 2009, 04:49:24 PM
Title: Bugnini Masterminded The New Mass in Defiance of Pope Paul VI
Post by: CM on October 20, 2009, 06:43:30 PM
Good grief!

If the kingdom of Satan be divided, how can it stand?

IT WON'T.

It's just a matter of time.
Title: Bugnini Masterminded The New Mass in Defiance of Pope Paul VI
Post by: kamalayka on October 21, 2009, 10:12:48 AM
Quote from: stevusmagnus


Bugnini Masterminded
The New Mass in Defiance of Pope Paul VI
 
As we know, Monsignor Annibale Bugnini was the Masonic affiliate who headed the Vatican II consilium for the reform of the Roman liturgy.


Do you also believe that Area 51 is hiding UFOs, and that the h0Ɩ0cαųst never happened?

Hopefully you don't think that 9/11 was an inside job, or that KFC makes black men impotent.
Title: Bugnini Masterminded The New Mass in Defiance of Pope Paul VI
Post by: CM on October 21, 2009, 02:36:44 PM
Quote from: kamalayka
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Title: Bugnini Masterminded The New Mass in Defiance of Pope Paul VI
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on October 22, 2009, 05:45:11 PM
I always will believe that Paul Vl knew what he was doing when
he forced the novus ordo missae, including the revisions to the
sacraments upon the church. He was a liberal, a modernist, and
an apostate pope.
Title: Bugnini Masterminded The New Mass in Defiance of Pope Paul VI
Post by: gladius_veritatis on October 22, 2009, 06:26:39 PM
Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
I always will believe that Paul VI knew what he was doing when he forced the novus ordo missae, including the revisions to the sacraments upon the church.


Indeed.  The alternative is a wee bit on the implausible side.
Title: Bugnini Masterminded The New Mass in Defiance of Pope Paul VI
Post by: Belloc on October 29, 2009, 12:07:39 PM
Quote from: gladius_veritatis
So, Bugnini was working AGAINST Paul VI, who then used his authority to implement the fruit of labors that were AGAINST his wishes, and did NOTHING to undo any of this for the next 8 years or so?

Is that about right?

Seems plausible...


Paul VI was weak....
Title: Bugnini Masterminded The New Mass in Defiance of Pope Paul VI
Post by: Belloc on October 29, 2009, 12:10:14 PM
Quote from: kamalayka
Quote from: stevusmagnus


Bugnini Masterminded
The New Mass in Defiance of Pope Paul VI
 
As we know, Monsignor Annibale Bugnini was the Masonic affiliate who headed the Vatican II consilium for the reform of the Roman liturgy.


Do you also believe that Area 51 is hiding UFOs, and that the h0Ɩ0cαųst never happened?

Hopefully you don't think that 9/11 was an inside job, or that KFC makes black men impotent.


This is dumb and not addressing issues at all, merely implying Stevus-a respected member of this forum, is tinfoil hat wearer.

The mountains and mountains of proof 9/11 was inside job apparently escapes you (Bishop Williamson believes USA Govt pulled off 9/11).

Holocuast happened, the numbers used and methods of death are debated......

Stevus never mentioned area 51....if it is there, who says taht UFO's are there, maybe some other top govt ops.....

dumb post...
Title: Bugnini Masterminded The New Mass in Defiance of Pope Paul VI
Post by: Belloc on October 29, 2009, 12:10:55 PM
Quote from: RomanCatholic1953
I always will believe that Paul Vl knew what he was doing when
he forced the novus ordo missae, including the revisions to the
sacraments upon the church. He was a liberal, a modernist, and
an apostate pope.


so...ehy was both a Pope and apostate then?