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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Brother Nathaniel ... SSPX Resistance
« Reply #80 on: Yesterday at 06:04:26 PM »
  Interesting post, Thanks.
 Never heard about BroNat till a few days ago. Was he an Ortho monk? He received a special blessing from a priest... What is a monk doing online? He says he wants to "join" NeoSSPX, but join (becoming a member) is very different from assisting or supporting. I am 95% certain Fr. Pagliarani will reject any type of public promotion of this Brother, if only for Bro's acknowledging the ""Resistance"", (period).

    Yesterday I went to the Solesmes web page, and the theme of the web page is : SHOP. Of course they are N.Ordo...$$$ Then a photo of two monks organising the sale of fruits, under the heading: What do monks do in today's world...

  BroNat is so very enthousiastic, like you point out: thousands of followers, 'this is only the beginning' etc. He is shopping for an audience...looks like.

Quote:I hope that I'm wrong about his conversion being suspect, and I hope that he gets the help he needs. God bless you.

Pray x 4

You sure that you correctly identified your gender in your user profile.

What the heck is this gossipy that would be the nosiest old lady to shame.

"What is a monk doing online?  What do monks do in today's world...  He is shopping for an audience looks like.  ... his conversion being suspect."

Unbelievable.  Disgusting.  Shameful for a man.

And yet the embarrassing ignorance of fools doesn't stop the slander, where they assert their ignorance as accusations.

Not all monks (in any Order) are contemplatives, takes vows of silence, and are confined always to their monasteries.  Varies from one Order to another.  You know he's shopping for an audience how?  He already has a very large audience that goes beyond Traddie-world, and if anything, he could draw his large audience towards Traditional Catholicism or at least bring awareness to it, so that some might investigate further.  And, how about the reason that he publicly speaks about these matters is because ... he wants the truth to get out, rather than to become famous.  How do you know?  Heck, I asked about where are the Trad saints, but evidently they're everywhere, putting Padre Pio to shame in terms of their gift for reading souls.  Brother is an extremely powerful voice against the Jews, since they can't get away with shutting him down for being Anti-Semitic, just as when a Black man comes out denouncing affirmative action or racism, where they can't just write him off.  And he might feel that this particular crusade is his calling, given the fact that he has the insider knowledge.

Just like before, where the other ignorance fool denounced his beard and his clothing/habit as "rabbinic", being ignorance that how he dresses is common among Eastern Orthodox AND Eastern Catholics.  Then the other ignoramus lies about how the Orthodox have said he was not a monk, suggesting that he just dressed like one of his own volition ... even though a very simple Google search would have prevent this slander, where there's a docuмent attesting to the fact that he was in fact an official / accepted monk among the Orthodox.

Offline Mark 79

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Re: Brother Nathaniel ... SSPX Resistance
« Reply #81 on: Yesterday at 08:23:17 PM »


Offline Mark 79

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« Reply #82 on: Yesterday at 08:24:39 PM »

Many trads rightfully hold skepticism of TLM chapel conversos, but the Bro.went "Full Bobby Fischer" on his judaic heritage.

Let's pray he can make the next step to go " "Full Marie Alphonse Ratisbonne" in his Catholic Faith.



Also true.

Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Brother Nathaniel ... SSPX Resistance
« Reply #83 on: Today at 12:06:19 AM »
He's a soul created in the image and likeness of God ... and assholish behavior like this might push someone away.  You act like you're doing some kind of service exposing some crap that you don't even know what it is or might be.

This is why Traddism is sterile.

#1) even if you had concrete reason to suspect insincerity, i.e. vs. smoking-gun proof, where it's just guessess about "seems fishy" and other such bullcrap, just shut up.  If you're wrong, you could be contributing to the loss of a soul.  You'd need an extremely compelling reason to run your mouth or your fingers.  I'm sure you're doing a lot of good for anyone, everyone ... putting on your cape to somehow protect Tradition and the Traditional movement.  Get lost.

#2) there is no evidence, just bullshit gossipy tongue-wagging, since last I checked you don't have the gift of reading souls.

You're pretending like you're objecting to some political views, rather than questioning the sincerity of someone's conversion to the faith in appealing to the "public figure" nonsense.  And the other compelling reason one might speak out contrary to charity would be is if there were some risk of harm, i.e ... you had information to suspect that someone might be a pedophile that would harm children, or that somehow Brother Nathanael might corrupt Traditional doctrine, somehow, by some means.  You have no such compelling reason.

Shut your trap with this effeminate and uncharitable gossip.

That's why it's long overdue to take this stupid forum down.  Way too many jackasses who have nothing better to do than to slander people, wheter +Vigano, or Shia LaBeouf, or Brother Nathanael, or anyone else ... none of which SERVES ANY CONSTRUCTIVE PURPOSES WHATSOEVER.

Every time I saw some unforgiving and yet omniscient Tradisee (Trad Pharisee) slandering Archbishop Vigano, I cringed, and prayed that he wouldn't read this crap and run, not walk, but run as fast as he could in the opposite direction from Tradism, ending up a Buddhist monk or something.

If this is how you greet a prospective convert, and then you end up driving him away, you might be participating in the loss of his soul, as well as the souls of those who might have followed him into the Church.

Indeed, many new converts have mixed motives, or may be weak in some respects ... but the Church has always accepted them and tried to help nurture their initial faith, and it often happens that they grow in strength to become the best Catholics.  That happens when some convert to the faith when contemplating marriage, where perhaps secretly you might wonder how strong their convictions were, etc. ... but you don't go around running your damn mouth (or posting online), lest you take that fragile faith and destroy it.  Now, if you had some concrete evidence where, oh, this prospective spouse told some friends or wrote an e-mail saying that she had faked the conversion just so she could later divorce some rich Catholic and take half.  Otherwise, these are just suspicions.  Maybe the faith is weak, maybe insincere, maybe partly sincere ... BUT YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO IDEA AND UNLESS YOU EITHER HAVE CONCRETE EVIDENCE OR THE GIFT OF READING SOULS, charity requires that we give them the benefit of any doubt or suspicion.  You may say as much as you think might be necessary, where you might bring it up to the prospective spouse, or the priest, etc. ... but you certainly don't go around at the donut tables that have become endemic in Trad chapels running your mouth about her "insincerity" or it being "fishy", like some gosspy old lady, lest it get back to her and if she did have a weak faith, you wreck it instead of helping to nuture it, until perhaps it become truly strong and solid.

Shame on you all.
Get a grip, man.  I said it seems fishy.  You’re going to the opposite extreme where you’re blindly trusting.  “Be wise as serpents…”.  In a world full of deception, no PUBLIC figure has a right to 100% trust.  And he’s a PUBLIC figure with things to gain from this move.  It’s not gossip, it’s analysis.  He’s the one who put himself in a PUBLIC space on the internet.  He’s the one who invited analysis.  PUBLIC figures are treated differently than Joe Orthodox who wants to convert.  

Re: Brother Nathaniel ... SSPX Resistance
« Reply #84 on: Today at 02:21:45 AM »
So Bishop Nathaniel is going to become SSPX, not SSPX Resistance. Even better. Hopefully, he will be a Trad-cuмenist, and be open to FSSP/Indult too. Anyway, his having become Catholic from Orthodox is obviously very good. Continued prayers for his Soul, may he do great things for God, from within the Holy Catholic Church.