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Re: Breaking: Taylor Marshall now questioning Bergoglio's legitimacy
« Reply #30 on: July 31, 2022, 02:41:48 PM »
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  • That being said, if sedes think that Marshall will be an asset as a potential sede, then they are not seeing reality. But that's not unusual for sedes.
    Speak for yourself.

    Dr. Marshall wouldn't necessarily be an asset in himself, as others have noted, he's not the brightest theologian out there and has very questionable connections. But as it stands, he's sitting at almost 400k subscribers on YT alone; that is quite an outreach if he did turn to the true position on the matter of these "Popes". Although, undoubtedly, be would be poised to lose a significant portion of them if he did; Louie Verecchio is an example of this.

    But hey, Christ did say we would have to prepare to lose everything for the truth.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Breaking: Taylor Marshall now questioning Bergoglio's legitimacy
    « Reply #31 on: July 31, 2022, 02:43:20 PM »
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  • It was stated by them in their own separate broadcasts. 

    Marshall said he had a little Jєωιѕн blood in him. But then, he looks very Jєωιѕн.

    Ryan Grant admitted it on "The Rundown".  He looks Jєωιѕн too and a number of The Rundown fans know it and jokingly chide him for it.


    Sorry, I can't give you the show date when they made the comments, but I heard both of them say it.


    If you contact them by email, I doubt they would deny it.


    Thanks for the information, it certainly does make a person think of the implications.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


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    Re: Breaking: Taylor Marshall now questioning Bergoglio's legitimacy
    « Reply #32 on: July 31, 2022, 02:51:41 PM »
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  • Speak for yourself.

    Dr. Marshall wouldn't necessarily be an asset in himself, as others have noted, he's not the brightest theologian out there and has very questionable connections. But as it stands, he's sitting at almost 400k subscribers on YT alone; that is quite an outreach if he did turn to the true position on the matter of these "Popes". Although, undoubtedly, be would be poised to lose a significant portion of them if he did; Louie Verecchio is an example of this.

    But hey, Christ did say we would have to prepare to lose everything for the truth.

    So it's numbers that really matter? Quantity, not quality? How does that square with being prepared to lose everything?

    I think that Marshall is just playing with sedes. Judging by his actions having to do with Fisher-Moore, the only thing that Marshall really cares about is money. How much do you know about that situation at Fisher-Moore?

    No way is Marshall going to switch to a position that will lose him money. Absolutely not. And he no doubt uses the excuse that he has a lot of mouths to feed at home, in order to justify whatever he does in the name of mammon.
    "It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

    ~St. Robert Bellarmine
    De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29

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    Re: Breaking: Taylor Marshall now questioning Bergoglio's legitimacy
    « Reply #33 on: July 31, 2022, 03:15:40 PM »
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  • No way is Marshall going to switch to a position that will lose him money. Absolutely not. And he no doubt uses the excuse that he has a lot of mouths to feed at home, in order to justify whatever he does in the name of mammon.
    At the end of the day, this is where it comes down to. He will drum up whatever controversy necessary to keep that money flowing.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Breaking: Taylor Marshall now questioning Bergoglio's legitimacy
    « Reply #34 on: July 31, 2022, 03:20:02 PM »
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  • "I cannot see how Francis Bergoglio can be the Vicar of Christ."

    Obviously, from a simple grammatical point of view, and the basic meaning of such simple words, Marshall is doing exactly what you say he is doing, i.e. questioning the legitimacy of Bergoglio's papacy, but I have heard similar statements from numerous R&R proponents over the years, and I have never seen any of them deny that Bergoglio is the pope.

    That raises a great question -- if they don't actually mean that they question Bergoglio's papacy by saying that, then what do they mean? The answer is I have no idea, and in most cases it seems clear that they themselves don't know what they mean by that statement. I think it is at bottom simply an emotional reaction that isn't really a rational thought in their mind.

    In other words, Marshall is just pounding the table, he's not expressing a theological opinion.

    Such is the Looking-Glass Land of R&R theology.


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    Re: Breaking: Taylor Marshall now questioning Bergoglio's legitimacy
    « Reply #35 on: July 31, 2022, 03:34:26 PM »
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  • I can confirm Incredulous statement about Ryan Grant being a Jєω.  There's at least 2 (maybe 3) episodes of "The Rundown" in the last year or so where he says it.  Not sure about Marshall but I know member Mark79 has a slew of evidence against him being a (likely) Infiltrator.

    I also called Ryan Grant out for refusing to debate Dimonds and running away from them in a comment section of one of "The Rundown" episodes before I was shadowbanned and he said they ran from him because they didn't want to do an E-mail debate where all the positions could be aired out in detail so I challenged him to an E-mail debate on Sedevacantism instead and he said he would and I sent him an E-mail and he confirmed it was his E-mail and said he would reply soon with a response....and of course he never replied lol. 

    Oh, that's interesting! 

    It's as if he is "signaling" us on his Jєωιѕнness.... to see who will challenge it?

    Recall, "The Rundown" did an internal vote on "Who believe in the Moon Landing?" 
    Only Grant refused to deny it. 

    That tied in with his NASA, Star Trek fan club affection, which he was  put on notice by viewers, for being Hollywood crypto-zionist propaganda.
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    Re: Breaking: Taylor Marshall now questioning Bergoglio's legitimacy
    « Reply #36 on: July 31, 2022, 03:50:51 PM »
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  • I think Taylor Marshall is genuine. Not the most intelligent theologian in the world but genuine nonetheless in my opinion.


    He is quite intelligent with some media charisma, but he's Opus Dei.

    On his former website, he endorsed the Opus Dei and praised the "theological" writings of Jose Escriva.

    So, his "pilgrimage of grace" has been:  Protestant seminarian --> Protestant Minister --> Opus Dei catholic ---> Trad Catholic ---> trad expert.


    What trads do you know who are Opus Dei?

    Note: A similar path has been traveled by the Marranos, Gerry Matatics (Dark sede) and Scott Hahn (evangelical catholic).
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Breaking: Taylor Marshall now questioning Bergoglio's legitimacy
    « Reply #37 on: July 31, 2022, 05:16:38 PM »
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  • I know that he gets a lot of hate because of his Opus Dei connections, but I get the impression he's sincere despite that.  I've known some decent people that got tied up with Opus Dei.

    "I cannot see how Francis Bergoglio can be the Vicar of Christ."
    Any chance there's a bit of payback/hissy-fit going on, i.e., that he's really peeved about what Bergoglio just did as seen in the following article?
    https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2022/07/23/pope-francis-demotes-status-of-conservative-opus-dei-group/

    Pope Francis Demotes Status of Conservative Opus Dei Group
    8,617 Pope Francis delivers his blessing to the faithful at the end of the Festival of Families, on the occasion of the opening of the 10th World Meeting of Families in the Paul VI hall at the Vatican City, Vatican, on June 22, 2022. (Photo by Riccardo De Luca/Anadolu Agency via … title=Pope Francis delivers his blessing to the faithful at the end of the Festival of Families, on the occasion of the opening of the 10th World Meeting of Families in the Paul VI hall at the Vatican City, Vatican, on June 22, 2022. (Photo by Riccardo De Luca/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images)
    Thomas D. Williams, Ph.D.
    23 Jul 20226,129

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    ROME — Pope Francis has demoted the leader of the conservative Opus Dei group from bishop to priest, revoking the structure ordained by Saint John Paul II.

    In an apostolic letter ironically titled “Ad Charisma Tuendum” (In defense of the charism), Pope Francis reversed measures enacted by Saint John Paul II in 1982 that ensured that the Opus Dei personal prelature would always be governed by a bishop, thus guaranteeing a certain degree of independence and flexibility.

    Francis has transferred the oversight of Opus Dei from the Congregation of Bishops to the Dicastery for the Clergy in a move widely interpreted as a backhanded slap to the group, which has traditionally focused on the sanctification and salvation of souls rather than contemporary concerns close to Francis’s heart such as climate change, immigration, anti-free market capitalism, and multilateralism.
    In explaining why in the future the head of Opus Dei will no longer be a bishop, Francis states that for the good of the group’s “particular gift of the Spirit,” what is needed is “a form of government based more on charism than on hierarchical authority.”

    In 1982, Saint John Paul II established Opus Dei as the Catholic Church’s first personal prelature under the leadership of its own bishop with his apostolic constitution Ut Sit, giving it a juridical configuration “suited to its specific characteristics.” John Paul wrote in that text:
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    The Ordinary of the Prelature Opus Dei is its Prelate, whose election, which has to be carried out as established in general and particular law, has to be confirmed by the Roman Pontiff. The Prelature is under the Sacred Congregation for Bishops, and will also deal directly with the other Congregations or Departments of the Roman Curia, according to the nature of the matter involved.
    Later, in 2001, John Paul reiterated the appropriateness of having Opus Dei governed by its own bishop.
    Pope John Paul said in March of that year:
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    You are here representing the components by which the Prelature is organically structured, that is, priests and lay faithful, men and women, headed by their own Prelate. This hierarchical nature of Opus Dei, established in the Apostolic Constitution by which I erected the Prelature, offers a starting point for pastoral considerations full of practical applications.
    I wish to emphasize, John Paul continued:
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    …that the membership of the lay faithful in their own particular Churches and in the Prelature, into which they are incorporated, enables the special mission of the Prelature to converge with the evangelizing efforts of each particular Church, as envisaged by the Second Vatican Council in desiring the figure of personal prelatures.
    In an attempt to explain why Pope Francis felt compelled to demote Opus Dei’s leadership, some have had cited the decades-old public hostility with which the pope’s Jesuit order has regarded Opus Dei.

    Other have elevated[/iurl] members of his own Jesuit order in a manner unprecedented since the notoriously nepotistic era of the Renaissance.
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    Re: Breaking: Taylor Marshall now questioning Bergoglio's legitimacy
    « Reply #38 on: July 31, 2022, 06:46:50 PM »
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  • His output is far from perfect, but I think him sincere.

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    Re: Breaking: Taylor Marshall now questioning Bergoglio's legitimacy
    « Reply #39 on: July 31, 2022, 07:04:49 PM »
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  • The one example of Marshall's Marrano agenda (to me) was his show commentary on the overturn of Roe vs Wade (June 22nd).

    Considering this legal decision represented a 50 year, blood & guts Catholic battle against the demonic forces of ʝʊdɛօ-masonry, Marshall takes the opportunity to praise the crypto-jew Donald Trump?

    Pro-Zionist Israel, Pro-Vaccine, Red Flag law... Donald Trump :facepalm:

    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Breaking: Taylor Marshall now questioning Bergoglio's legitimacy
    « Reply #40 on: July 31, 2022, 07:13:31 PM »
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  • Interestingly I recently purchased the Ryan Grant translation of St. Alphonsus' Moral Theology. I'm in the first section which is on conscience, and I found the translation awkward, so that I could not comprehend the definition given for vincible ignorance; and there were other sentences hard to wrest. 

    Now I'm no stranger to St. Thomas and to St. Alphonsus, both of whom I find eminently intelligible. 

    This strange wordstringing has given me pause. Now I think I might know the problem. I did not before know Grant's background. 

    I'm certainly ticked that I wasted my money on something I now cannot trust. Happily it was the kindle edition, so I'm only out a ten spot.  

    Grant certainly does have a face. Thanks, Incred, for alerting us to the facts of lineage regarding these media cucks. 


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    Re: Breaking: Taylor Marshall now questioning Bergoglio's legitimacy
    « Reply #41 on: July 31, 2022, 07:26:17 PM »
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  • Interestingly I recently purchased the Ryan Grant translation of St. Alphonsus' Moral Theology. I'm in the first section which is on conscience, and I found the translation awkward, so that I could not comprehend the definition given for vincible ignorance; and there were other sentences hard to wrest.

    Now I'm no stranger to St. Thomas and to St. Alphonsus, both of whom I find eminently intelligible.

    This strange wordstringing has given me pause. Now I think I might know the problem. I did not before know Grant's background.

    I'm certainly ticked that I wasted my money on something I now cannot trust. Happily it was the kindle edition, so I'm only out a ten spot. 

    Grant certainly does have a face. Thanks, Incred, for alerting us to the facts of lineage regarding these media cucks.
    This is so funny! :jester:

    Thanks for bringing this up.  I didn't want to mention it, but yes, Grant is a Jєωιѕн book peddler.

    That a jew is doing translations on Catholic works is a bit concerning. 

    Recall a translation by jew for Penguin books on the antique book by Bernal Diaz's titled: "The Conquest of New Spain"  
    This is a fantastic diary story of Hernando Cortes' Montezuma campaign.   Diaz was there.

    Well in one small citation, the Franciscans on the campaign make note that the pagan idol statuary in all the Aztec temples appeared to look the same.
    The Friars thought they were of judaic origin.  This was a bombshell, implying that ritual human sacrifice was taught to the Aztecs by the jews, from the Diaspora.  

    I always wondered what the original text of Bernal Diaz's book contained about the jews and suspected that the tranlsator had conveniently deleted Diaz's more incriminating diary entrees?
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: Breaking: Taylor Marshall now questioning Bergoglio's legitimacy
    « Reply #42 on: July 31, 2022, 07:52:52 PM »
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  • Any chance there's a bit of payback/hissy-fit going on, i.e., that he's really peeved about what Bergoglio just did as seen in the following article?
    https://www.breitbart.com/faith/2022/07/23/pope-francis-demotes-status-of-conservative-opus-dei-group/

    Pope Francis Demotes Status of Conservative Opus Dei Group
    8,617 Pope Francis delivers his blessing to the faithful at the end of the Festival of Families, on the occasion of the opening of the 10th World Meeting of Families in the Paul VI hall at the Vatican City, Vatican, on June 22, 2022. (Photo by Riccardo De Luca/Anadolu Agency via … title=Pope Francis delivers his blessing to the faithful at the end of the Festival of Families, on the occasion of the opening of the 10th World Meeting of Families in the Paul VI hall at the Vatican City, Vatican, on June 22, 2022. (Photo by Riccardo De Luca/Anadolu Agency via Getty Images)
    Thomas D. Williams, Ph.D.
    23 Jul 20226,129

    3:40

    ROME — Pope Francis has demoted the leader of the conservative Opus Dei group from bishop to priest, revoking the structure ordained by Saint John Paul II.

    In an apostolic letter ironically titled “Ad Charisma Tuendum” (In defense of the charism), Pope Francis reversed measures enacted by Saint John Paul II in 1982 that ensured that the Opus Dei personal prelature would always be governed by a bishop, thus guaranteeing a certain degree of independence and flexibility.

    Francis has transferred the oversight of Opus Dei from the Congregation of Bishops to the Dicastery for the Clergy in a move widely interpreted as a backhanded slap to the group, which has traditionally focused on the sanctification and salvation of souls rather than contemporary concerns close to Francis’s heart such as climate change, immigration, anti-free market capitalism, and multilateralism.
    In explaining why in the future the head of Opus Dei will no longer be a bishop, Francis states that for the good of the group’s “particular gift of the Spirit,” what is needed is “a form of government based more on charism than on hierarchical authority.”

    In 1982, Saint John Paul II established Opus Dei as the Catholic Church’s first personal prelature under the leadership of its own bishop with his apostolic constitution Ut Sit, giving it a juridical configuration “suited to its specific characteristics.” John Paul wrote in that text:Later, in 2001, John Paul reiterated the appropriateness of having Opus Dei governed by its own bishop.
    Pope John Paul said in March of that year:I wish to emphasize, John Paul continued:In an attempt to explain why Pope Francis felt compelled to demote Opus Dei’s leadership, some have had cited the decades-old public hostility with which the pope’s Jesuit order has regarded Opus Dei.

    Other have elevated[/iurl] members of his own Jesuit order in a manner unprecedented since the notoriously nepotistic era of the Renaissance.
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    Re: Breaking: Taylor Marshall now questioning Bergoglio's legitimacy
    « Reply #43 on: July 31, 2022, 08:09:53 PM »
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  • Interestingly I recently purchased the Ryan Grant translation of St. Alphonsus' Moral Theology. I'm in the first section which is on conscience, and I found the translation awkward, so that I could not comprehend the definition given for vincible ignorance; and there were other sentences hard to wrest.

    Now I'm no stranger to St. Thomas and to St. Alphonsus, both of whom I find eminently intelligible.

    This strange wordstringing has given me pause. Now I think I might know the problem. I did not before know Grant's background.

    I'm certainly ticked that I wasted my money on something I now cannot trust. Happily it was the kindle edition, so I'm only out a ten spot. 

    Grant certainly does have a face. Thanks, Incred, for alerting us to the facts of lineage regarding these media cucks.
    I bought it a while back on Kindle, and yes, it is definitely an awkward translation. I, too, found myself struggling with it because of the weird sentences and haven't really gone back to it since. Thank God I didn't put down $40-50 on a print copy. :facepalm:

    I think Lad has commented before on how shoddy Grant's translations can be.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Breaking: Taylor Marshall now questioning Bergoglio's legitimacy
    « Reply #44 on: July 31, 2022, 11:12:37 PM »
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  • I bought it a while back on Kindle, and yes, it is definitely an awkward translation. I, too, found myself struggling with it because of the weird sentences and haven't really gone back to it since. Thank God I didn't put down $40-50 on a print copy. :facepalm:

    I think Lad has commented before on how shoddy Grant's translations can be.
    I'm glad I'm not the only one who noticed this!

    But Ryan Grant and Chad Ripperger are a regular pas de deux.

    What does that say?