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Offline gladius_veritatis

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Re: Sedevacantism question
« Reply #35 on: February 14, 2022, 04:48:07 PM »
Bishop Dolan said he believes that whatever Pius XII did was acceptable to heaven...

It was so acceptable that God allowed Holy Church to be utterly obliterated by Pius XII's immediate successors.  55+ years later, no mortal mind, however nimble, gifted and well-educated can even grasp the scale of the destruction or accurately diagnose the seemingly-mortal illness, yet we are to believe what Pius XII did was pleasing to God?  I would hate to see what would have happened if he had failed to do as directed.

Re: Sedevacantism question
« Reply #36 on: February 14, 2022, 04:56:31 PM »
It was so acceptable that God allowed Holy Church to be utterly obliterated by Pius XII's immediate successors.  55+ years later, no mortal mind, however nimble, gifted and well-educated can even grasp the scale of the destruction or accurately diagnose the seemingly-mortal illness, yet we are to believe what Pius XII did was pleasing to God?  I would hate to see what would have happened if he had failed to do as directed.
That's why I referenced the consecration of the Sacred Heart in France, which was done, but was late and not done in a manner pleasing to God, therefore, France suffered.

Not good indeed. And I think back to the consecration of Louis XVI of the Sacred Heart, which too was done "in half-measure", and France yet suffered the errors of the French Revolution.

I speculate that we could yet say that it was done, even if in a half-measure, and the errors have spread as we were warned because it wasn't done soon enough.

Now, there's speculation that 2029 something may happen due to the parallel timeframe to the SH consecration, so it remains to be seen. Recall also that it was requested for Pius XI to do it, and he did not, resulting in the ʝʊdɛօ-Communists infiltrating the clergy.


Re: Sedevacantism question
« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2022, 05:04:00 PM »
That's why I referenced the consecration of the Sacred Heart in France, which was done, but was late and not done in a manner pleasing to God, therefore, France suffered.

Now, there's speculation that 2029 something may happen due to the parallel timeframe to the SH consecration, so it remains to be seen. Recall also that it was requested for Pius XI to do it, and he did not, resulting in the ʝʊdɛօ-Communists infiltrating the clergy.
So, why is it that these popes did not do as requested? This is interesting to me.  Is it possible that popes don't put as much focus on private revelations as many lay folk do? Have popes ever properly done consecrations requested by/through seers?

Re: Sedevacantism question
« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2022, 05:33:05 PM »
So, why is it that these popes did not do as requested? This is interesting to me.  Is it possible that popes don't put as much focus on private revelations as many lay folk do? Have popes ever properly done consecrations requested by/through seers?
I know that Pius XII was devoted to Fatima, and had his own "miracle of the sun" occur in the Vatican Gardens. So it could simply have been a matter of lack of personal belief in the message when it came to Pius XI, God only knows. Because if we look back to the visions of St. Margaret Mary and the Sacred Heart, the Popes of her time were quite enthusiastic about the devotion, but the consecration in that age was for the authority of the King of France, not the Pope.