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NEWS:  June 6, 2006


Bird’s Eye View of the News

 Atila Sinke Guimarães



First, regarding the race, the attack of nαzιsm against the Jєωs certainly was an atrocious and condemnable thing. But I don’t understand how it is essentially different from the genocide the Turks made against the Armenians in 1915, or the Russians carried out against the Ukrainians in the early 1930s. Or for that matter, the mass-murder America released on the Japanese people in Hiroshima and Nagasaki or the Germans in Dresden. Above all, if Our Lady was concerned about large numbers of people being unjustly killed, why didn’t she complain about the millions of innocent babies murdered by their own mothers in abortions? So, even if the alleged number of six million Jєωs killed by the nαzιs were real, and I don’t believe it is, it would not explain why Our Lady would refer only to it if she were moved by humanitarian reasons.



So what exactly does Atila believe concerning the so called h0Ɩ0cαųst of Jєωs by the 3rd Reich?  He compares it to other genocides, but doesn't agree on the 6 million number.  I think it is quite possible that Hitler actually saved more Jєωs than anyone in recorded history.  Jєωs were sent to Palestine and Jєωs were sent to cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs.  Those were actually safer options than the ones of being firebombed during the war or starved to death by Eisenhower after the war with so many other German POWs.


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Well, one thing's for SURE. If the Report is "Scientific" then the flat-earthers won't believe it.
For them, anything "scientific" must be denounced from the opening gate.
Disinformation from a tortured soul. Modern pagan scientism must be refuted, and true empirical science employed. The science in this technology will prove Sister Lucy II is not the same person as the Lucia of Fatima.


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Have you seen this video publish 1-24-2018.

Dr. Peter Chojnowski "Two Sister Lucia's? and False Mainstream Fatima Narrative"


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Interesting comments seen under the below video.  Were Fr. Gruner and John Vennari in denial and if so why?  Or is there some other reason behind this rather rambling answer heard in the video?



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When Fr. Gruner attended the SSPX Winona Ordinations around 2009, afterwards, he spoke to an informal group on the grounds of the seminary.

The "Two Sister Lucy's" topic came up and Fr. Gruner was overheard to say, that he refused to publish anything on the theory because it would scandalize his Novus ordo benefactors.

This was the first time I started to doubt the credibility of the self-proclaimed "Fatima Priest".

It would be interesting to know if the SSPX has taken over Fr. Gruner's CFN newspaper and the Fatima Center?.
Many SSPX associates (Fr. Albert, Fr. Philipson, etc) have been seen "on stage" at the latter recently.

Of course, if it's true, why would Bp, Fellay want to keep it secret?   I think we know the answer.
"Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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When Fr. Gruner attended the SSPX Winona Ordinations around 2009, afterwards, he spoke to an informal group on the grounds of the seminary.

The "Two Sister Lucy's" topic came up and Fr. Gruner was overheard to say, that he refused to publish anything on the theory because it would scandalize his Novus ordo benefactors.

This was the first time I started to doubt the credibility of the self-proclaimed "Fatima Priest".

It would be interesting to know if the SSPX has taken over Fr. Gruner's CFN newspaper and the Fatima Center?.
Many SSPX associates (Fr. Albert, Fr. Philipson, etc) have been seen "on stage" at the latter recently.

Of course, if it's true, why would Bp, Fellay want to keep it secret?   I think we know the answer.
Fr. Paul Kramer may have some insight into all of this.  His email is paulkramer0@gmail.com

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When Fr. Gruner attended the SSPX Winona Ordinations around 2009, afterwards, he spoke to an informal group on the grounds of the seminary.

The "Two Sister Lucy's" topic came up and Fr. Gruner was overheard to say, that he refused to publish anything on the theory because it would scandalize his Novus ordo benefactors.

This was the first time I started to doubt the credibility of the self-proclaimed "Fatima Priest".

It would be interesting to know if the SSPX has taken over Fr. Gruner's CFN newspaper and the Fatima Center?.
Many SSPX associates (Fr. Albert, Fr. Philipson, etc) have been seen "on stage" at the latter recently.

Of course, if it's true, why would Bp, Fellay want to keep it secret?   I think we know the answer.
Interesting. Perhaps Father Gruner felt threatened by his NO benefactors. Perhaps he crossed them and that resulted in his death.
Heaven only knows.
Lord have mercy.


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It's mostly sedevacantists who want to prove that there was a fake Sister Lucy (hence the articles from sede websites featured on this thread). They have a specific reason for doing so. 
"It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

~St. Robert Bellarmine
De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29


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It's mostly sedevacantists who want to prove that there was a fake Sister Lucy (hence the articles from sede websites featured on this thread). They have a specific reason for doing so.

Last time I checked, Sister Lucy wasn't elected Pope.  This has nothing to do with sedevacantism ... except for in your own mind.

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It's mostly sedevacantists who want to prove that there was a fake Sister Lucy (hence the articles from sede websites featured on this thread). They have a specific reason for doing so.
I take it that you will be one of those who will not believe the results then Meg?
For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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Meg, that's a stupid comment.  This has nothing to do with sedevacantism and it has everything to do with THE TRUTH, which you apparently can't handle.




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Meg, that's a stupid comment.  This has nothing to do with sedevacantism and it has everything to do with THE TRUTH, which you apparently can't handle.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=you+can%27t+handle+the+truth&view=detail&mid=F5D77DD5FE8EA81AB4EAF5D77DD5FE8EA81AB4EA&FORM=VIRE

Here's a comment from the Novus Ordo Watch article posted on this thread:

"So the Novus Ordo "Sister Lucy" is fake. Folks, if the Modernists are willing to go to such lengths to give credence to their Vatican ll religion and keep it going, is it really so hard to believe they've been presenting us with imposter "Popes" as well?"

The above comment comes from the sedevacantists at Novus Ordo Watch. What is Chojnowski's reason for presenting trads with proof of the fake Sr. Lucy? (other than soliciting donations). What's his goal in this "investigation"? He's a sede too, correct?
"It is licit to resist a Sovereign Pontiff who is trying to destroy the Church. I say it is licit to resist him in not following his orders and in preventing the execution of his will. It is not licit to Judge him, to punish him, or to depose him, for these are acts proper to a superior."

~St. Robert Bellarmine
De Romano Pontifice, Lib.II, c.29