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Author Topic: Bp. Williamson sermon: Eucharistic Miracles in the New Mass. Do you agree?  (Read 5483 times)

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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: Bp. Williamson sermon: Eucharistic Miracles in the New Mass. Do you agree?
« Reply #5 on: April 08, 2019, 09:32:38 AM »
1.  The conciliar church has motivation for introducing new "miracles"...$ from pilgrimages and books.
2.  The conciliar church did not adequately, independently, nor publically, investigate this event.
3.  The conciliar church accepted this miracle as real, impulsively, without the long-standing Church attitude of only accepting miracles after science has failed to provide an explanation.
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Online Ladislaus

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Re: Bp. Williamson sermon: Eucharistic Miracles in the New Mass. Do you agree?
« Reply #6 on: April 08, 2019, 09:34:49 AM »
Quote from: XavierSem on April 08, 2019, 08:15:27 AM
So, Bp. Williamson is not Traditional Catholic?

Use your brain, man, if you have one.  I say you're not a Traditional Catholics for others reasons, and not simply because you happen to believe in the Novus Ordo so-called Eucharistic Miracles.
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Online Ladislaus

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Re: Bp. Williamson sermon: Eucharistic Miracles in the New Mass. Do you agree?
« Reply #7 on: April 08, 2019, 09:37:33 AM »
Quote from: XavierSem on April 08, 2019, 08:15:27 AM
You have been living in the mortal sin and public schism of Sedevacantism for some 2 to 3 decades, while having the opportunity to know better, and you'll be dead to Grace, and your soul will be in grave danger of eternal loss, as long as you continue like that, without repenting and confessing that sin of Svism.

You are the one who's in formal schism and dead to grace.  I refuse submission to the Novus Ordo hierarchy because I have positive doubts about their legitimacy.  Canon Lawyers write that it's not schismatic to refuse submission based on widespread positive doubts about legitimacy.  PS, I am not a sedevacantist but what I refer to as a sede-doubtist, but you don't grasp distinctions very well.  You on the other hand persist in remaining in schism from the Novus Ordo hierarchy even though you hold them to be undoubtedly legitimate.  You can articulate no reasons of conscience which force you to remain separated from submission to them and why the FSSP is not a viable alternative for you.  In fact, pretty much every post if yours is made in defense of and in order to legitimize the Novus Ordo establishment.

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Online Ladislaus

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Re: Bp. Williamson sermon: Eucharistic Miracles in the New Mass. Do you agree?
« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2019, 09:39:41 AM »
Quote from: Pax Vobis on April 08, 2019, 09:32:38 AM
1.  The conciliar church has motivation for introducing new "miracles"...$ from pilgrimages and books.
2.  The conciliar church did not adequately, independently, nor publically, investigate this event.
3.  The conciliar church accepted this miracle as real, impulsively, without the long-standing Church attitude of only accepting miracles after science has failed to provide an explanation.

And from my perspective, it's doubtful whether they have the authority to pronounce on these matters (or any authority whatsoever).
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Offline Markus

Re: Bp. Williamson sermon: Eucharistic Miracles in the New Mass. Do you agree?
« Reply #9 on: April 08, 2019, 01:48:25 PM »
This will be an interesting sermon. I don't have a firm position regarding Eucharistic miracles in the Novus Ordo. I have plenty of doubts.
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