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Offline Texana

Re: Bp. Williamson's Christmas Miracle?
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2023, 09:58:04 AM »
Quote from: TheRealMcCoy on December 25, 2023, 08:31:43 AM
Can someone explain to me why Bergoglio is pope?
Because Cardinal McCarrick and the St. Gallen Mafia selected him to be pope?
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Offline St Giles

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Re: Bp. Williamson's Christmas Miracle?
« Reply #11 on: December 25, 2023, 11:12:12 AM »
Quote from: TheRealMcCoy on December 25, 2023, 08:31:43 AM
Can someone explain to me why Bergoglio is pope?
Because God allowed it? Because the world deserves such a pope? All authority comes from above. Pope Francis doesn't have to abuse his authority. Surely someone who holds that position in the church has at least initially, if not continually received inspiration from God to do good, yet that man rejects it. Surely Francis has some inkling that what he is doing is controversial and against Church teaching. He could choose to do good, or at least no more evil. Is there any comparison to the captivity of the Hebrews regarding Pharao, or a Babylonian king? What's that scripture quote: I will strike the shepherd and the sheep will be scattered?

Is it sufficient in our case to accept that we don't know regarding whether Francis is pope or not? As long as we try to do our part to remedy the situation according to out state in life?

I heard Cardinal Ratzinger said Vatican II is a contra syllabus of errors. If he said that, surely him making such a comment and what he did later could be formulated into proof of Formal Heresy.

Quote from: Matthew on December 25, 2023, 07:15:06 AM
There are things we know with certainty, and things we don't. We have to be very precise and very accurate when it comes to what we accept and reject. Anything that is a possibility, even a remote possibility, we must leave the door open. That's how you avoid making huge retractions, recantings, posting in your sigline, "I repent of anything I've ever said against the Catholic Faith", etc.

I am all for apologizing when I'm wrong, and I have enough humility (scraped from the sides of the peanut butter jar) to do so, but I prefer to not be wrong in the first place. And if I merely didn't possess all the facts, that's not the same as PUSHING something that was wrong. When something is doubtful or "in play", one should admit that. For starters, you don't uncharitably smash the other side just for being on the other side.

That's how you live with no regrets. See, I won't be making any major apologies in the future. That's because I have nothing to apologize for. That doesn't mean I know everything. It means I'm of good will. There's a difference.
Does this also apply to the shape of the earth?
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Offline TheRealMcCoy

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Re: Bp. Williamson's Christmas Miracle?
« Reply #12 on: December 25, 2023, 01:20:32 PM »
Quote from: St Giles on December 25, 2023, 11:12:12 AM
Because God allowed it? Because the world deserves such a pope? All authority comes from above. Pope Francis doesn't have to abuse his authority. Surely someone who holds that position in the church has at least initially, if not continually received inspiration from God to do good, yet that man rejects it. Surely Francis has some inkling that what he is doing is controversial and against Church teaching. He could choose to do good, or at least no more evil. Is there any comparison to the captivity of the Hebrews regarding Pharao, or a Babylonian king? What's that scripture quote: I will strike the shepherd and the sheep will be scattered?

Is it sufficient in our case to accept that we don't know regarding whether Francis is pope or not? As long as we try to do our part to remedy the situation according to out state in life?

I heard Cardinal Ratzinger said Vatican II is a contra syllabus of errors. If he said that, surely him making such a comment and what he did later could be formulated into proof of Formal Heresy.
Does this also apply to the shape of the earth?
Let me clarify...anyone please state the reasons that you believe Bergoglio is pope. Convince me, if you will. 
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Offline Catholic Knight

Re: Bp. Williamson's Christmas Miracle?
« Reply #13 on: December 25, 2023, 04:01:09 PM »
".....depending on how one judges the manner in which he was elected."

Bishop Williamson is hinting, whether knowingly or not, at the root of the problem here, and that is that Jorge Bergoglio was "elected" by the cardinals while there was a pope, Joseph Ratzinger, still occupying the Throne of Peter.  However, if it can be demonstrated with sufficient evidence that Jorge Bergoglio was a public manifest formal heretic BEFORE his "election", then that would be the a priori cause (reference cuм Ex Apostolatus Officio) of his not being pope.
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Offline Quo vadis Domine

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Re: Bp. Williamson's Christmas Miracle?
« Reply #14 on: December 25, 2023, 05:15:09 PM »
Quote from: Catholic Knight on December 25, 2023, 04:01:09 PM
".....depending on how one judges the manner in which he was elected."

Bishop Williamson is hinting, whether knowingly or not, at the root of the problem here, and that is that Jorge Bergoglio was "elected" by the cardinals while there was a pope, Joseph Ratzinger, still occupying the Throne of Peter.  However, if it can be demonstrated with sufficient evidence that Jorge Bergoglio was a public manifest formal heretic BEFORE his "election", then that would be the a priori cause (reference cuм Ex Apostolatus Officio) of his not being pope.

It still boggles my mind how Ratzinger defenders don’t realize he was just as heretical as Bergoglio. ::)
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